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Offline General Battuta

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Quick question: which fighter mounted weapons have the big damage flag? Specifically, does the Trebuchet?

I can't get at the tables because I'm on a Mac and there's no way to view VPs.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Bombs, and perversely the EMP Adv. missile.
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Offline Herra Tohtori

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I can't get at the tables because I'm on a Mac and there's no way to view VPs.

Maja VP editor doesn't work on Mac? :nervous:
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Offline blowfish

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I can't get at the tables because I'm on a Mac and there's no way to view VPs.

Maja VP editor doesn't work on Mac? :nervous:

It does for me :wtf:

And yes, the Trebuchet has the "huge" flag, which is odd, because that means that the AI will never fire it at bombers...

 

Offline Mars

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I could never kill that Moloch at the end of the first mission where the Aquataine escapes the nebula with EMP... does the missile do no damage or something?

 

Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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The EMP only does 45 damage which is the same as a Rockeye.  It also doesn't have the Huge flag. 
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Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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And yes, the Trebuchet has the "huge" flag, which is odd, because that means that the AI will never fire it at bombers...

...another programming error on the part of :v:? :nervous:
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obviously. Though, in fact, it's the 'bomber+' flag that breaks it.
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Offline blowfish

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obviously. Though, in fact, it's the 'bomber+' flag that breaks it.

Well, it's the fact that the "huge" flag is used in conjunction with the "bomber+" flag that makes it not work.  But seeing as it was intended as an anti-bomber weapon, I'd say the "huge" flag is more out of place...

 

Offline General Battuta

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The EMP only does 45 damage which is the same as a Rockeye.  It also doesn't have the Huge flag. 

Yes it does. I used it to kill the Tiamat on that mission! Granted, it takes forever to deal that last few percent, but it does work (and continuous bombardment with heavier non-bomb weapons doesn't.)

 

Offline blowfish

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Yes it does.

:wtf:  No ... it doesn't.  Look at the table.

Code: [Select]
$Flags:                                ( "player allowed" "EMP")

 

Offline Mars

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So it doesn't have the big damage flag either...

except I know it did.

 

Offline Snail

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So it doesn't have the big damage flag either...

except I know it did.
Well it doesn't. It may have changed between retail version 1.00 and 1.20 or something.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Yes it does.

:wtf:  No ... it doesn't.  Look at the table.

Code: [Select]
$Flags:                                ( "player allowed" "EMP")

Whoa...I was definitely using EMP Advanceds, and they definitely killed the Tiamat. I was using a 3.6.10 trunk build at the time.

How's that possible?

 

Offline Snail

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IIRC, in some recent SCP builds all capital ships are killable, it's just the last 1% is a lot more resistant to damage.

 

Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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Retail was that way as well.  I think all the flag does is determine weather or not the damage done by the weapon on the last 10% of the ships hull is reduced.  You could theoretically kill a Lucifer with a maxim if you held down the crtl key for a week. 
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Retail was that way as well.  I think all the flag does is determine weather or not the damage done by the weapon on the last 10% of the ships hull is reduced.  You could theoretically kill a Lucifer with a maxim if you held down the crtl key for a week. 
But you'd end up with arthritis using that method. Which is why I've assigned primary fire on "D".
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Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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I was thinking more along the lines of disarming the ship and then setting something heavy on the key. 
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Offline Jeff Vader

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... or that.

But I'm still not giving up on my "D" configuration.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
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Offline Mars

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Could someone double check Snail... no offense, but I think he's wrong.