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Offline Retsof

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Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
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In the mission Into the Maelstrom, there are 2 Elysium transports named Hauler 1 and Hauler 2. They have no purpose in the mission.

That's from the Wiki.  But if you hang around after the Collosus arrives they will move in and dock with the transports, then If I remember correctly, they will go to the Collosus.  Most of the time one of them gets splattered by asteroids though and this seems to mess up the orders for the second.
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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
I think it means that they don't serve a purpose from the players' perspective. I'm assuming they are not required to be protected etc and so are little more than decoration for the mission itself?

 

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
I think they share the same purpose as the events that happen after you are ordered to return to base in Surrender, Belisarius!. In that mission, if you linger on for much longer and ignore Command asking you if there is something wrong with your jump drive, you can fly around and watch Iotas 1 and 2 dock with the Psamtik before the destroyer recalls its fighters and depart.

The Haulers, I think, are supposed to simulate the transferring of supplies from the convoy ships to the Colossus. In esscence, they are the ones who are doing the actual re-supply. However, a waypoint glitch in the game means that they take forever to dock with the convoy ships, and I don't think they undock after that.

If you play the mission at the highest difficulty level, both Elysiums stand a high chance of getting destroyed by asteroids. :drevil:
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Offline Snail

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
I thought they dock with the miners and then dock with the Colossus.

 

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
One of the two, definitely. I haven't flown that mission in a while, so I can't remember.
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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
Transports. They frakking deliver.
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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
It's not delivery...it's Digiorno.
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Offline Mars

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
Oh god... now I want a frikkin pizza...

I've never actually seen those transports survive.

 

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
They won't survive on Insane difficulty, but they will on Very Easy. Try playing the mission once at the lowest difficulty level.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
Nvr dn tht mslf, but has anyone tried issuing the "Protect the damn thing, you wankers!" order to the wingmen?
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23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
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14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

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01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

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14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
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Offline Mars

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
AI is a little spotty when it comes to asteriods

 

Offline MP-Ryan

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
AI is a little spotty when it comes to asteriods

A LITTLE?

Try useless =)
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Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
A LITTLE?

Try useless =)

No wonder I find protecting the Iceni to be a nightmare... ;)
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
A LITTLE?

Try useless =)

No wonder I find protecting the Iceni to be a nightmare... ;)
It's not the Iceni. It's the Hinton that's a pain in the arse. You take a peek at the escort list and think "Oh, the Hinton is at 98. Coo.", you blink your eyes and "The Vasudans have destroyed the Hinton! Pilots, redouble your efforts.".
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
It's not the Iceni. It's the Hinton that's a pain in the arse. You take a peek at the escort list and think "Oh, the Hinton is at 98. Coo.", you blink your eyes and "The Vasudans have destroyed the Hinton! Pilots, redouble your efforts.".

:lol:

I know what you mean, sometimes, I see the Hinton at about 80%, then a few moments later, it gets destroyed without any warning.
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Offline Mars

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
I hate that mission... it's like Russian Roulette, with five chambers loaded. It's not really your skill that's put to the test, but your luck.

There have been times I've done nothing and both the Iceni and Hinton make it through
There have been times I've done everything and the Hinton goes down anyway.

And my favorite:
There have been times the Hinton makes it through the asteroids, but somehow it ends up in front of the Iceni... so when the Iceni jumps out it takes out the Hinton.

 

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
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Colossus: This is the GTVA Colossus. We have reached the rendezvous point. Now deploying transports. [...]

...that's more or less the message sent by the Colossus at the end of Into the Maelstrom. IMO the transports were supposed to take off from the Colossus fighterbay upon its arrival and dock with the convoy but since the procedure will take a long while the FREDder simply told the transports to follow a waypoint path...

 

Offline Snail

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
Well, really it makes little difference since the player doesn't need to protect them or even be in-mission at that point.

 

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
The player's missions ended with the arrival of the Colossus. It doesn't mean that the series of events surrounding the missions ended as well.

As FREDder I usually add things that go beyond the amount of time the player is supposed to spend on the battlefield. There will be transports ordered to dock with ships many minutes after the "official" end of the mission and such. IMO things shouldn't freeze when the RTB directive appears on the HUD.

 

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Re: Purpose of Hauler 1 & 2
The player's missions ended with the arrival of the Colossus. It doesn't mean that the series of events surrounding the missions ended as well.

As FREDder I usually add things that go beyond the amount of time the player is supposed to spend on the battlefield. There will be transports ordered to dock with ships many minutes after the "official" end of the mission and such. IMO things shouldn't freeze when the RTB directive appears on the HUD.

You mean like "Surrender, Belisarius!"?
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Quote: Wednesday, 6 November 2019, 1845hrs UTC, #gaming
The_E
behold the power of this fully armed and operational recluse

z64555
but does it destroy planets with a turbo laser