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Offline Kosh

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Cool, maybe we can use it to build antigravity drives
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I don't think they proofed anything. They just showed that the theory about dark energy completes the equations, if the theory of general relativity is applied on a galactic scale.

Pretty cool they found such a cluster though.
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do they have some of this dark energy on a shelf somewhere? if not that means it's still to be confirmed. it's alright writing down numbers and letters on paper but that proves nothing until they have this stuff. saying they think they see some in a cluster nearby out little solar system also means nothing imo.
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Offline BloodEagle

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“The existence of the cluster can only be explained with dark energy,” says Lamer.

I call bull**** on that statement.

 

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Me too.  That article provides no justification for why the cluster requires dark energy.

I'm still doubtful that "dark [matter|energy|whatever]" is anything other than an incomplete understanding of gravity.

 

Offline Al Tarket

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or a lack of human intellegence, which is entirely possible.

reminds me of star trek voyager, a dark energy being and enterprise after the story of how archers friend of competitive rival broke the warp 2 barrier in 2 experimental warp ships where he fired to rockets from his shuttle craft to light up the dark energy nebula. starcraft protoss psi blades are included with dark energy also.
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Dark Matter actually has some scientific basis for existing.

 

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Even if dark energy were to exist, there is no practical way to harness it. So I'd call that article rather useless anyway.
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Re: Dark Energy for real?
The original article can be found at:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0805.3817v3

There is no mention of any Dark Energy or Matter.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Dark Energy for real?
do they have some of this dark energy on a shelf somewhere? if not that means it's still to be confirmed. it's alright writing down numbers and letters on paper but that proves nothing until they have this stuff. saying they think they see some in a cluster nearby out little solar system also means nothing imo.

*headdesk* This is not how science works.

Even if dark energy were to exist, there is no practical way to harness it. So I'd call that article rather useless anyway.

We don't know that. Given its properties, it might be possible to use it to prop a wormhole mouth open, which could be the closest thing we ever get to subspace travel.

 

Offline Kosh

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We don't know that. Given its properties, it might be possible to use it to prop a wormhole mouth open, which could be the closest thing we ever get to subspace travel.

Or use it to get a warp drive working.
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We need to find out what happens at absolute zero temperature, and what happens when you exceed the speed of light. There are too many things Terrans do and don't know. They are capable of high intelligence, but the majority of the species can only use at most 10% of their brains for the process known as "thinking". The rest either remains unused, is used for memory, or processing of stimuli, or sorting of memories.
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Actually that's kind of a myth, since if you had all neurons working at all time (which is what people mean by saying using N% of the brain) you would be having seizures.
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We need to find out what happens at absolute zero temperature, and what happens when you exceed the speed of light. There are too many things Terrans do and don't know. They are capable of high intelligence, but the majority of the species can only use at most 10% of their brains for the process known as "thinking". The rest either remains unused, is used for memory, or processing of stimuli, or sorting of memories.

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Offline Al Tarket

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Re: Dark Energy for real?
do they have some of this dark energy on a shelf somewhere? if not that means it's still to be confirmed. it's alright writing down numbers and letters on paper but that proves nothing until they have this stuff. saying they think they see some in a cluster nearby out little solar system also means nothing imo.

*headdesk* This is not how science works.
might not be, however you know i am right until you do find something to prove me wrong..
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Offline General Battuta

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might not be, however you know i am right until you do find something to prove me wrong..

Strangely enough, I don't. How puzzling. Let's move on.

We need to find out what happens at absolute zero temperature, and what happens when you exceed the speed of light. There are too many things Terrans do and don't know. They are capable of high intelligence, but the majority of the species can only use at most 10% of their brains for the process known as "thinking". The rest either remains unused, is used for memory, or processing of stimuli, or sorting of memories.

We know exactly what happens at absolute zero temperature -- please go look it up on Wikipedia. Absolute zero is not physically attainable.

We also know exactly what happens when you exceed the speed of light. Again, look it up.

What you say about using a small fraction of the brain is, as has been pointed out, a myth.