[Snail]

         Well, he's not under any obligation to give us anything. Even so, still a bit of a waste. Would've been better to release it and have all of his hard work appreciated rather than go for nought.

Well I don't see any good reason he had to delete everything. Sometimes it seems he deliberately went out of his way to get rid of everything... It just doesn't seem logical. I for one would've at least saved it to a hard drive or backup disk or something in case I ever wanted to look at them again.

[Nico]

So why not providing the original tables as well? Sp people get to see what I intended for these ships, at the very least?

You're the one who released the OTT modeldump back not I, the tables at that time were very buggy and were known for loads of debug warnings. I think you decided it was too much hassle to clean them up when they weren't going to be used.

Ah, ok, it's so long ago, I just don't remember.

        Hey I for one would be interested at having a look at the tables. I mean, transferring data from one buggy table to a good one is easy as pie. And also I just created wikipedia entries for all the vasudans (ie http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/VEB_Shai), so having more information than "Unknown Unknown Unknown Unknown" might make things more interesting.

Oh, well, at least, I can help for that, when I remember. The shai (and aoh) for instance, had a unique gun available only to them, it fired weak small blobs of green, very fast, it looked like a green spiral, it was quite funky (but a bit heavy on the computer, back then).
If I have some free time, I can try and check if I have the tbls somewhere, I know I have an archive disk somewhere, but there's only half of the stuff on it, the rest is lost. I'm not even sure it's not just a half of an archive (rar or something), and, then if it lacks the second half, I won't be able to open it.

Also, the Ennead, originaly, is just a shuttle, not an interceptor (no weapons or anything, it was just something to protect in a mission in OTT). I'm the one who did the Mihos, too, but the pic shows an early version, it had new maps in the same style as my other vasudan ships in OTT.
The Anhur maps were never completed, too, that's why it looks so cartoonish.
Fiannly, I think the yaruu was a model by Ace, and I only mapped it.

[Droid803]

         Well, he's not under any obligation to give us anything. Even so, still a bit of a waste. Would've been better to release it and have all of his hard work appreciated rather than go for nought.

Well I don't see any good reason he had to delete everything. Sometimes it seems he deliberately went out of his way to get rid of everything... It just doesn't seem logical. I for one would've at least saved it to a hard drive or backup disk or something in case I ever wanted to look at them again.

It seemed that he didn't like a lot of what he did (even though everyone else did).

[Snail]

Actually he did that because apparently he's had enough of FS and can't be bothered to do anything else with it.

[NGTM-1R]

GVB Anhur

I'm fairly certain that this is in SA.

I also know that the majority of the Ancients ships were originally released as Shivan, as I've seen screens from the time, but those textures are long lost.

[Snail]

I'm fairly certain that this is in SA.

Well I have it so it's public.

I also know that the majority of the Ancients ships were originally released as Shivan, as I've seen screens from the time, but those textures are long lost.

I don't think so. Not the ones released with INFR1 anyway. The AF Kato was even reskinned after it was released to be a Shivan fighter (known as the Korath).

[Akalabeth Angel]

GVB Anhur

I'm fairly certain that this is in SA.

I also know that the majority of the Ancients ships were originally released as Shivan, as I've seen screens from the time, but those textures are long lost.

       Yeah I think it is in SA but SA's not public yet. I was just seeing what had happened to ships that had been released but somewhat forgotten. As long as someone's still got it and they're working on it that's cool.

       I've just been updating the Wiki with all the ships I can find so if something's released and freespacey I'll try to get it up there eventually. I think I've got all of the Vasudans done that I can find anyway (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/User-made_Ships). People are always asking for new ships but there' s a crapload of stuff already out there that everyone may not know about so hopefully this will help to rectify some of that and also to help ensure that some things aren't lost or forgotten.

       There was an Anhur Mark IV as part of the Lost Souls dump. Not sure if SA's differs from that or if there's a newer public version floating around.

[Droid803]

I'm fairly certain that this is in SA.

Well I have it so it's public.

FSMods? (pretty please?) or is it in INF lockdown? (in which case it wouldn't be public, now would it?)

[Akalabeth Angel]

I'm fairly certain that this is in SA.

Well I have it so it's public.

FSMods? (pretty please?) or is it in INF lockdown? (in which case it wouldn't be public, now would it?)

   I'm not sure what version Snail has, but this version is in the OTT model dump on FSMods already: http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/VEF_Anhur_MkIV

[NGTM-1R]

Different from the SA version it appears. Identical naming confusion.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Different from the SA version it appears. Identical naming confusion.

     In that case, Snail should cough up whatever he's got.

[Getter Robo G]

Nico!!!!!! (See, he lives!)

Anyway, would you mind if I used some OTT ships as temp placeholders for MacrossII Marduk ones?

They've been sitting on my drive since release just looking pretty with no usage, at least until I got this idea...
 

[Hellstryker]

however Aldo said he has deleted all remaining things so we'll never get them, because they don't exist anymore.

WHAT?

did he give a reason???

He hates all his models, and probably hates himself too 

[Nico]

Nico!!!!!! (See, he lives!)

Anyway, would you mind if I used some OTT ships as temp placeholders for MacrossII Marduk ones?

They've been sitting on my drive since release just looking pretty with no usage, at least until I got this idea...
 

No, I don't mind, everything you (or anybody) can find that I made, can be used in whatever way you want, that was the point of me releasing it all, you know

[Akalabeth Angel]

No, I don't mind, everything you (or anybody) can find that I made, can be used in whatever way you want, that was the point of me releasing it all, you know

     So your alter ego is Venom? Doh, going to have to update some model credits

[Nico]

No, I don't mind, everything you (or anybody) can find that I made, can be used in whatever way you want, that was the point of me releasing it all, you know

     So your alter ego is Venom? Doh, going to have to update some model credits

Yes, so from times to times the people here also call me Venico

PS: nobody from the old OTT team or FS+ team would happen to have all the files for either project? I'd like to get a look at them again, of possible...

[Raven2001]

Heya Nico, glad to see you'r still around

As for your question, personally I don't have anything from OTT now (not even the missions I made). Bu might be a good shot asking Ice or Ace

[Nico]

Heya Nico, glad to see you'r still around

As for your question, personally I don't have anything from OTT now (not even the missions I made). Bu might be a good shot asking Ice or Ace

Hey Raven I tend to check things once a year or so
I already asked Ace, he doesn't have much, a couple meshes from FS+ and that's it. Don't know how to contact Icefire.

[blowfish]

Don't know how to contact Icefire.

What's wrong with a PM?  IceFire is active around here...

[Nico]

K, I thought he wasn't anymore. Bah, never mind, it's not like I'm going to do anything with it anyway.