[Akalabeth Angel]

I'm not too concerned about a possible FS3 killing FSO either.  I'm more interested as to why that picture is on their website.  

It means:

A.)  They know we exist.
B.)  They know what we do.
C.)  They like what we do.

But why would they feature an Inferno ship on their site, when they know it's an open-source mod?

D.) They're lazy

[Dark Hunter]

I'm not too concerned about a possible FS3 killing FSO either.  I'm more interested as to why that picture is on their website.  

It means:

A.)  They know we exist.
B.)  They know what we do.
C.)  They like what we do.

But why would they feature an Inferno ship on their site, when they know it's an open-source mod?

D.) They're lazy

E.) All of the above.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Acknowledgement is usually a good omen.

[Al Tarket]

ahh the typical stolen ideas it always happens, you respect a company for bringing you a game and yet you turn a blind eye to this stuff.

it's like saying, this company made these glasses for me that a great however you get huge headaches from them every time and yet you won't sue them because your friendly with them, in the end it will either kill your vision or impair you to such a state nothing can be done because it's irreparable.

if someone was kind enough to send an email across to tell them to change the picture to freespace 2 ship like a herc 2 or Perseus at least, and see what the reply states to get a better understanding, it would explain some of their motivations instead of sitting here wondering about copyright infringements.

[Inquisitor]

That would be an unbelievably stupid thing to do.

[Al Tarket]

suit yourself, however how will you know "that would be an unbelievably stupid thing to do" until you did such a thing?

[Inquisitor]

Because, I have been doing this sort of thing for a really long time and this community is in no real position to make any kind of demand that Interplay change anything.

I am not a lawyer, and none of this should be construed to be legal advice, but my layman's grasp of these things based on 15 years of dealing with lawyers and contracts and entertainment software leads me to believe the following:

1) Its free press for Inferno, and by extension HLP and the rest of us.

2) Chances are good that they have an implied (if not explicit) legal right to any derivative art (anything that re-uses textures, etc)

3) While HLP doesn't condone it directly, the lions share of this community believes they can do whatever they want with FS2 binaries, a questionable at best legal position

The Inferno authors could email them and thank them for the spotlight, the SCP could email them similarly, but nobody should email them and tell them to change the art. That's an expressway to a cease and desist or worse.

We should be supporting them in their return or ignoring it.

That's why I believe your suggestion is fundamentally stupid.

[Akalabeth Angel]

suit yourself, however how will you know "that would be an unbelievably stupid thing to do" until you did such a thing?

     Since the Eclipse is Woomeister's ship, he's the only one who could really complain anyway. No one else has any right to do so.

[Mobius]

I don't think the INF team is going to pretend something from Interplay and Woo hasn't even posted here to tell his point of view. I guess he'd be pleased but nothing else.

About FS3:

What I'd really like to have and use? The new music soundtracks...

[Akalabeth Angel]

I don't think the INF team is going to pretend something from Interplay and Woo hasn't even posted here to tell his point of view. I guess he'd be pleased but nothing else.

About FS3:

What I'd really like to have and use? The new music soundtracks...

    The FS2 tracks are basically incompatible with the FS1 tracks as it is. You'd have more to play with, but that's about it.

[Mobius]

I don't think so, I combined them in missions with interesting results...

[Al Tarket]

suit yourself, however how will you know "that would be an unbelievably stupid thing to do" until you did such a thing?

     Since the Eclipse is Woomeister's ship, he's the only one who could really complain anyway. No one else has any right to do so.

i never mentioned names i mentioned the reference "you" twice and that could mean anyone. however who's ever the ship belongs to thats their call, and as that is the cas,e why is this thread up for then?

[Inquisitor]

Good question.

[Fenrir]

Because, I have been doing this sort of thing for a really long time and this community is in no real position to make any kind of demand that Interplay change anything.

*Snip*

That's why I believe your suggestion is fundamentally stupid.

I like your reasoning. There's no reason for the community to oppose itself to Interplay when friendly relations are still easily possible.

[Goober5000]

It's like the parable of the moneylenders.  Picture this:


Interplay: We'll look the other way while you mod our games and point people toward legally questionable means of obtaining them.  After all, we get free publicity.

Modders: Yay!

Al Tarket: Hey!  You're using a screenshot of Woomeister's ship on your website!  I demand you take it down!

Interplay: You moron.  I forgave you a huge debt; shouldn't you likewise forgive others?

(Interplay lays the cease-and-desist smackdown)

Modders: Nooooo!

[Nuclear1]

This sort of insulted me:

It's (Freespace 2) a bit like Starcraft in that it needs little more than a general update to bring it to a 21st-century standard.

[Mongoose]

Starcraft seems to be doing quite well for itself in the 21st century with a "20th-century standard" going on.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Axem or Goober could make a satirical campaign out of this...

[Titan]

i lov thoses...

[Androgeos Exeunt]

...or maybe even one on DRM, if they're willing to push it.