[Jadehawk]

Are you launching the executable found in f:/Freespace? If you have another one somewhere ELSE and you're running THAT, then of course it won't be finding the new files...

And it needs to be repeated: there is NOTHING that can be done to the model to mess up the normal maps. The model specifies only ONE texture; the game associates the normal, shine, and glow maps with that texture all by itself.

I believe you 100% I'm just bumb founded why I can see the other normals such as the Falcon. I can see it just fine as well as the others. But the Ezechiel is the only one that's causing me trouble. Also, the fact others have seen my normal (which I know needs work) just frustrates me even more. I'm not giving up, just gonna try some voodoo magic....err well try removing all the ezechiel files and reinstall them.
As for the missions...your gonna love this! I was looking at the CAMPAGINS selection...NOT THE SINGLE MISSIONS in the tech room! I'm such a Klutz at the moment! 

My copy is the original from the old OTT download (the whole mod).
Did you want me to zip the Ezechiel files up? (I made the crude glow shine maps you see in the pic)

I just replaced a Herc II pof entry in the extracted table with Ezechiel.pof for TESTING only...

Sure thing dude! Much appreciated! 

Send to [email protected]

I can see the normal map clearly..but honestly, it needs work.

Thanks for the reminder. Once I get to see it I'm, gonna work on this in earnest. 
 

[Jadehawk]

Woohoo!!! I got it fixed!! I finally get to see the normals.

My problem was the .exe I had was the standard 3/6/10 build. I just got the nightly build and it has what I was missing all along. I did NOT have the feature to turn on the normals until I get the nightly download for the nightly builds.

Thank my lucky stars I can now get moving to refine the normal for this!

Thanks fellas for putting up with all this and helping me out. I promise when I get done, this Ezechiel will be worth it.

Woohoo! 

Edti: dam that normal is inside out!  oops.

[Hellstryker]

I'm just bumb founded why I can see the other normals such as the Falcon. I can see it just fine as well as the others. But the Ezechiel is the only one that's causing me trouble.

 

[Droid803]

That may or may not have had the possibility of possibly being a hallucination?
Sometimes, shine maps can give the illusion of normal mapping.

[Jadehawk]

Update:
Good things is, got a new normal and looks better now. bad things is, I cant play any missions now. I can see the models in the F3 tech room just fine. But when I go to play a mission in the mission folder, it loads up fine. Click on Ship selection works fine. Select Weapons selection and/or select to start the mission and my game crashes. Does not matter what trunk build I use that has the normal switch feature. Yes I understand this is a Beta and will be buggy. I even went back to my video card setting panel and checked to make sure things were ok.

I'm gonna post this in the other forum for some help.

stay tuned! 

[Flaming_Sword]

Try running the debug build and seeing if it complains about the ship?

[TrashMan]

Could be the mission. Make a new test mission.

[Jadehawk]

Could be the mission. Make a new test mission.

I'm at work on my lunch break. When I read Trashman's reply here and when I ran the debug this morning before work, the debug was giving me all kinds of weapon errors. Then is dawned on me it was my weapons selection for the missions! Correct?
I made them missions when I had the older FreeSpace setup and just copied them into the new setup. I now believe I need to go into FRED2 and reset the weapon selections then is should work OK. We'll see when I get home.

Thanks again fellas

[Jadehawk]

I'm happy to show you an update that I think you all will be happy to see.

I think I got the normals for both the GTF and SOC versions correct now. Note, no shine or glow maps yet. Just the latest build of the 3.6.10 which I again re-downloaded the game and I think this time its a much better installation. Still problems, but one thing at a time now.

Please note the SOC version I lightened up in Paint Shop Pro so you can see this in the screen shot. In the actual game, it's visible and quite nice to look at. Just it's not good for taking screen shots of.

Without further adieu:





Whaddia think? 

[blowfish]

Me likes

Though I still don't think it looks good with the top half of the guns being light and the bottom half being dark...

[Jadehawk]

I can change that  and I think I will soon.

I have one nagging problem with the Ezechiel .pof models I tracked down the ghost revenants campaign and extracted both the Ezechiel.pof and the  ezechielx.pof and both have problems that I cannot fix as I do not know how too.

On the Ezechiel, this one has all the glows for the thrusters, but does not have blinking red, green and blue lights. The ezechielx.pof has all the lights, but is missing the lower right rear thruster glow.

Can someone fix these two so I can finally have a good sound .pof files to work from?

The person who does I'll give them a copy of both textures and the normals when I get the working pof files. 

[Mobius]

Is that a skull? It doesn't fit well with the name Ezechiel...

[Jadehawk]

Hehehee... Just consider it as a revelation from umm...well "Holy Hell" 

[lostllama]

I really like how this is going so far.  It's one of my favourite custom made ships. Nice work Jadehawk.

[Droid803]

Very nice!

[Jadehawk]

Thank you fellas

Update: I created the shine and Glow maps. I'm not too hot about the Shine map being applied to this as it makes it look like it got Slimed by the Ghost from The Ghost Busters!  I have included both with and without the Shine map here.

I also created the first version of the SOC Ezechiel and there will be two versions. One Black and one Teal. Black one is shown here as I made it a Desktop image.

I hope someone can fix the GTF Ezechiel and SOC Ezechiel .pof models so I can complete these as well. 








I also hope that someone can fix the models as explained previously so I can complete this project too. 

[blowfish]

You can use the alpha channel of the shiemap to reduce the amount of environmental reflections that show up

[Jadehawk]

uh OK I believe you... just I never have done anything about changing Alpha channels? Is there a tutorial step-by-step on how to? I"m just clueless here. 

[blowfish]

Do you use Photoshop?

[TrashMan]

I for once don't use enviromental maps at all. Too much eye candy is not good for you.

Have you applied the insignias I made? No.

Fixing the .pof? You mean that missing face. Hold on, I'll look into it tomorrow.