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So, probably not that that big of a deal,
But when I use the launcher with 3.6.9, it says that the "webcursor bitmap was not found".

It gives me three suggestions.  I have Freespace open in the folder, and I don't believe my freespace 2 is corrupted, as I was just playing it before i downloaded the newer version of open.

Any thoughts?  Point out something I've missed?

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
So you've had FSO before and it has worked? If you're using shortcuts for the Launcher and/or the builds, make sure their paths are correct.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
System specs?  By any chance are you using Direct3D?  If so switch to OpenGL.  You could also run the debug build and attach the fs2_open.log from the data directory. 

Man your fast Lobo.  He did say it was working before he downloaded a newer version of 3.6.9.

And you edit your posts fast too. 
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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
Man your fast Lobo.  He did say it was working before he downloaded a newer version of 3.6.9.

And you edit your posts fast too. 
Well, they don't call me the Problem Solving Wolfman for nothing.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
So you've had FSO before and it has worked? If you're using shortcuts for the Launcher and/or the builds, make sure their paths are correct.

Everything is in my Freespace folder, and I'm not using shortcuts.  I believe I was using 3.6.7, but that was before I knew anything about computers, which was only about... two?  two years ago?  I feel like you've put it out sooner than that.



System specs?

Not fantastic.  I'm about to build a better computer in a month or two, so if necessary, I can wait until then.

Celeron CPU 2.8 GHz,  768 Mb of ram (i had a gb, but one of the older 256s burnt out), 120 gb hard drive, NVIDIA Geforce FX 5200, and I'm running XP professional.

By any chance are you using Direct3D?  If so switch to OpenGL.  You could also run the debug build and attach the fs2_open.log from the data directory. 

No, I'm using Open GL.  When i use the launcher to run the debug, it does the same thing.

He did say it was working before he downloaded a newer version of 3.6.9. 

Again, not newer version of 3.6.9, and old 3.6.7.  And now, when I try to run fs2 independent from FS Open, it crashes, and says it's experienced a problem and needs to close.
Maybe it corrupted somehow between the time I played it last, and the time I tried to play it post 3.6.9 + media vp downloads?

EDIT:  Also, I just tried to load my old 367 version of fs open, and it also thinks that it's being not being run from the same place i installed freespace.  What happened...?
« Last Edit: October 02, 2008, 12:12:55 pm by Platinum »

 

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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
Try deleting the launcher6.ini file and rerun the launcher, do you setting, and try it again. 
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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
If that doesn't work do this.


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/installingfs2_open.html#upgrade

Don't delete anything or install anything but follow that guide on how to clean your FS2 folder. Then run FS2 retail. If that works, you can run the FS2_Open installer to get the rest. Otherwise post again and we'll try to solve the problem.
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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
Score.  I got it.  I had deleted all the "smarty" "stu" "tango" vps, because i had assumed they were old media vps that I didn't need.

I guess I did need them.  I think this'll work now, let me try it out.

 

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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
You definitely need all the retail vps, and you should keep your mediavps inside a mod folder so that kind of stuff doesn't happen :)
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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
But, new problem.  All the models have lines over them, kind of like wireframes.  They all look like window blinds.  Plus, the missiles leave trails that look like.... tape?

EDIT:  Except the Herc 2.  Except, the targeting model, down in the corner has the lines over it.

MOAR EDIT: And the frigate in the second training mission.  That model works too.  But the drones, and, looking through the models in the tech room, nearly all the rest of the models have lines all over them.  the ones that work are

Ursa, Herc 1, herc 2, leviathan and fenris, triton, bes, nephyt, one of the turrets.... and that's about it.

Also, shielding is just black spots, and when something is on fire, it's trail is a bunch of checkered squares.

Is this a graphics card problem?
« Last Edit: October 02, 2008, 05:12:46 pm by Platinum »

 

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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
Could be.  Try updating your video drivers and make sure you are using OpenGL not D3D. 
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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
Checked for new drivers, and apparently there are none.  Yeah, I'm using open gl, 1024x768, 32 bit, trilinear filtering.

Seems all in order...

 

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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
Checked for new drivers, and apparently there are none.  Yeah, I'm using open gl, 1024x768, 32 bit, trilinear filtering.

Seems all in order...
Which build were you using? Some builds can cause the stripe issue with Nvidia cards. Try the Recommended build for Windows users in my signature.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
Checked for new drivers, and apparently there are none.  Yeah, I'm using open gl, 1024x768, 32 bit, trilinear filtering.

Seems all in order...
Which build were you using? Some builds can cause the stripe issue with Nvidia cards. Try the Recommended build for Windows users in my signature.

I am using 3.6.9, but after trying 3.6.10, (from the link in your sig), there seems to be no difference.  I still have the striping on most models.  It's almost as though the texturing WANTS to be there, but can't.  Because the Psamtik has the prettier lights, that deeper orange, and the transports kind of flicker like there should be more there, but it's though it just can't seem to manage.

 

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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
Hmm. Just to be sure. You have these drivers installed, correct?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
We're dealing with an upgrade from an old version so what MediaVPs do you have?  Do you get the same problem if you disable the MediaVPs? 
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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
I'm still worried the install itself might be broken.  If he every did install mediavps or other stuff in the root folder it'll be hard to rule that out.  Where's one of those guides that says exactly what should be in the root folder?
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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
In Kara's FAQ link posted earlier in the thread. 
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Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
It was the graphics card drivers.  Installed new ones, and

...

 :o

Holy ****.


It's so pretty.

This may not be the end, folks.

But hopefully, my next question will end up being about a problem with a MOD.
Because I'm really itching to play some of these, they look amazing.

 
Re: So, probably not that that big of a deal,
Okay.  Now the models work fine.  All the ships look real pretty.

But leaking exhaust, and shield's reactions to being shot are still black space.  the smoke from burning ships is still represented as black squares, and shielding shows up as black space.  And the trails left by missiles are yellow strips.