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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
What I'm really looking for is a way to find errors in a translated strings.tbl.

The Italian version(which looks admirably, dammit...I hard believe I made it :D) crashes whenever I target something. I bet there's an error about my HUD translations but I can't get to the bottom of it. I'm more afraid, however, about eventual others errors in the future, which will be quite difficult to find...without a way to track them down(when I run FS2 nothing bad is reported, the crash occurs only when a given text is supposed to appear) I don't know how to create a stable translation.

If only FSO could report the error as a normal table error (requested "X", found "Y" in line "Z") I would really like to continue.
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Have you managed to translate everything? Once you have everything translated post it and I'll see what's needed to make it work.
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
I've got to find my FS2 PL version CDs to give you my strings/tstrings and font files.
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Most things used in single player mode are translated, I think. I touched only a few lines of the multiplayer section simply because I can't check if the changes are appropriate or not.

Ex. "Play" is generic, it might refer to both a mission and a movie, but in Italian there's a need for two different words..."Gioca" for a mission and "Guarda" for a movied. I checked that and reacted accordingly. In addition the length of most translations might cause issues, that's why I haven't touched most multi lines...I'm unsure...

I would like to know if there's a debug build able to track down strings.tbl errors.


I've got to find my FS2 PL version CDs to give you my strings/tstrings and font files.

Is the Polish translation a fanmade one? Do you know if there are any hints, like troubleshooting for translation problems like the ones I currently have?
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Mobius, translate them anyway. We can fix problems with multiplayer in playtesting (assuming some Italian multiplayer pilots can be found). But a halfway done translation can't be fixed easily at all. :)
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
If you agree, I'd like to release a readme file suggesting any players to send me feedback any kind of feedback. I don't expect the first released version to be the definitive one.

As far as I'm concerned everyone here can check my multiplayer translations and tell me if they're too long. :)
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Well the first release would be for FS2 not Diaspora so as far as I'm concerned post it however you like. :)

We'd just nick it and use it in Diaspora (with credit of course) when we release. :)
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Sounds fine...I'll work on it... :)
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
I've got to find my FS2 PL version CDs to give you my strings/tstrings and font files.

Is the Polish translation a fanmade one? Do you know if there are any hints, like troubleshooting for translation problems like the ones I currently have?
Nope. It's official one.
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
I thought the only official translations were German and French...

I know it may seem weird, but...uh...are we sure there's no official Italian translation?
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Nope, French, German and Polish are the only official ones I've ever heard of.
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Right...I wanted to be sure...
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Karajorma said that those are needed for translation. Zipped files are in the attatchement.


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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
I have a fully translated Russian version with Cyrillic interface, fonts, fully translated missions and tables. ...I bought that 3 month before the official release in Irkutsk. It cost me 1 rubel. :P
I also have a full Hungarian translation with translated missions and tables. I bought that 1 year after FS2 release. I have to dig them up. Those shall be somewhere deep down in my archives.
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Wow, Meleardil!  Didn't know they existed!  Please let us know when you do find those.  The Russian one especially would be popular with the Minbari Project group.  Hungarian alphabet (as far as I understand from Wikipedia) will already work with my hybrid font, but Cyrillic will need the font*.vf files.

Thanks, shiv_pl.  The tables are great.  Odd, however: the font*.vf files are no different than the English ones :wtf:  I wonder, perhaps they put them in a different VP than sparky?  Or perhaps the Polish ones get installed directly to data\fonts ?  Please check, if you have time.

 

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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Backslash, he're probably polish fonts from my FS2 data dir. Check the attatchement, pleeze. ;)

EDIT: About tables. Instead of polish symbols you might see squares.
You might need to install polish keyboard in the control panel.

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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
That's it!  There's the Polish letters!  Great.  Thanks. :yes: Now it'll take me a few days to see if I can merge the files with my own... it may turn out to not be possible but it's worth a try.  Worst case we'll just have to provide different font sets for Polish and Russian.

Anyone have French versions of the strings / tstrings table?  The one karajorma posted only has English and German as far as I see.

Mobius, please send me the crashing Italian table(s).  I've been doing a lot of modification to the hud code... it's still WIP but it may help me narrow down your error.  It may well be not your fault but a bug in the code I'll need to fix.

 

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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Mobius, please send me the crashing Italian table(s).  I've been doing a lot of modification to the hud code... it's still WIP but it may help me narrow down your error.  It may well be not your fault but a bug in the code I'll need to fix.

I've just sent it via PM. :)
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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
I bought this in 1999 in Irkutsk (Siberia) for the price of 1 rubel (about 20 cent at that time).
Backslash, where shall I upload these files? The Russian might need more space. You can PM me.
The Hungarian version is an exe file with a nice Hungarian installer interface. It turns the original FS2 into Hungarian.


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Re: Proposal - Multilanguage support for Diaspora?
Are you Elvish Russian, Meleardil?

You can post the tables here(don't attach them, simply copy and paste the content) or better, send them via PM. :)
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