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Offline Romanmolf

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Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
BIG lag issue. I've been using adveffects for a long time, so it isn't it. It has to be something on the ''Video'' tab or a ''Game Speed'' flag.

I use:


- 3.6.10 mVPs.

- 3.6.9 build.

- Launcher 5.5d

Please respond!

Lobo no likey all bold text...
« Last Edit: October 11, 2008, 03:25:35 pm by Lobo »

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: TOO much lag (NOT BECAUSE OF MV_ADVEFFECTS)
The best troubleshooting algorithm in these cases is to think back. What have you done recently? When did this occur? What did you do immediately before this lagging began?

- 3.6.10 mVPs.

- 3.6.9 build.
It is recommended to use a 3.6.10 build (such as the Recommended build in my signature), when using the 3.6.10 MediaVPs. And it is good to note that the asteroids in the 3.6.10 Betas tend to bring almost any rig to its knees.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Romanmolf

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Re: TOO much lag (NOT BECAUSE OF MV_ADVEFFECTS)
Asteroids have nothing to with it.
EDIT: And the 3.6.10 did nothing.

As I said:
It has to be something on the ''Video'' tab or a ''Game Speed'' flag.

Is there something I should/shouldn't do/check?

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: TOO much lag (NOT BECAUSE OF MV_ADVEFFECTS)
Well, what flags do you have on? As in, any and all flags you've ticked on.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Any other games experiencing a problem? The Vid card overheating is always a possibility.

Run the debug build and post the fs2_open.log file from the data directory.
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Offline Romanmolf

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Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
I have nothing checked in ''game speed'' and in ''video'' I have:

OpenGL (as always)

1280x1024 (as always)

32-bit (as always)

Trilinear (as always)

anisotropic filter x0 (recent, could be it)

Anti-aliasing x0 (could be it)

General settings 4 (as always)

No large textures (recent, could be it)


Here's the fs2_log.

[attachment deleted by Tolwyn]

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
We were more interested in your command-line options, not the Video tab.

These:
Code: [Select]
  -spec_exp 9
  -ogl_spec 50
  -spec_static 0.5
  -spec_point 0.4
  -spec_tube 0.4
  -ambient_factor 0
  -env
  -mipmap
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -spec
  -dualscanlines
  -orbradar
  -rearm_timer
  -targetinfo
  -3dwarp
  -ship_choice_3d
  -warp_flash
  -mod MediaVPs
  -loadallweps
  -show_mem_usage

1. -env might cause slowdowns. Maybe -mipmap as well.
2. Why do you have -loadallweps and -show_mem_usage on?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Romanmolf

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Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
After removing -mipmap and -env game's smooth more or less. Thanks!

Just 1 question: What exactly do these affect: large textures

                                                              anti-aliasing

                                                              anisotropic filter

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
If I recall correctly, the Large textures thing doesn't actually do anything anymore, but you might as well leave it on. As for the other two:
The anti-aliasing setting in the Launcher doesn't do anything except look pretty at the moment.  If you want to set AA then do it in your driver control panel.  Setting AA will smooth out jaggies on the edges of polys to make things look better.  The higher AA setting that you use the slower it is, but also the more memory required to run the game, so keep that in mind.

The anisotropic filter setting affects mipmap levels.  It's basically like a sharpen filter and when mipmap filtering is used by the game it helps keep the textures from becoming as blurry.  The higher the setting the faster your graphics card need to be, but there are also quality issues, so you might not really like the visual changes when set as high as you can actually set it.  It is best to set AF in the Launcher rather then doing it in your driver control panel.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
If I recall correctly, the Large textures thing doesn't actually do anything anymore, but you might as well leave it on.
Correct, FSO ignores it.  It only remains on the launcher for compatibility with running retail EXEs, which do make use of that setting.

  

Offline Romanmolf

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Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Thanks again!
« Last Edit: October 13, 2008, 08:45:47 am by Lobo »

 

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Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Turn off show_mem_usage. Use show_stats or a debug build instead.
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Offline Romanmolf

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Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Ok.