[Stormkeeper]

Woah. Hold up here, kiddies. Before you run off to create a TC with 2 people, at least create a demo mission to show that you're really serious about this. Think of it as making a proposal to the community, with all the bells and whistles. Once you show that you're serious, and that you have a few workable models, people will be more interested to join up.

[Droid803]

How can you do a demo mission of a TC if you have no models?
Make something cheesy using only stock ships?

At least they have a website already.

[TopAce]

...FRED, not so hard. Pretty logical. I've put together several missions for my own enjoyment. Turned out pretty well...

A piece of advice from a veteran FREDder: Creating some sort of mission is easy. Creating enjoyable ones is much harder, not to mention stuff like making cutscenes or how much effort you must put into a single mission. Multiply it by the number of missions you want to make. You'll also have to run through the missions in campaign mode to see if they work properly in a campaign. It's more time-consuming and tiring than it might seem at first.

[Colonol Dekker]

  It's worse than A-Level coursework.....

[dragonsniper]

Woah. Hold up here, kiddies. Before you run off to create a TC with 2 people, at least create a demo mission to show that you're really serious about this.

That's where people like you come in handy to help model (I can't model. (Not yet.) You don't want to see me try. Trust me...)

At least they have a website already.

Thank you


No really, thx

at least create a demo mission to show that you're really serious about this. Think of it as making a proposal to the community, with all the bells and whistles. Once you show that you're serious, and that you have a few workable models, people will be more interested to join up.

And how can I do that?

[Snail]

And how can I do that?

That kind of proves this is going nowhere fast.

[General Battuta]

Yeah, the sad truth of FS2 mod development -- particularly for total conversions -- is that you need to do most of the work yourself.

Go look at The Babylon Project, an ambitious and successful total conversion. IPAndrews did the lion's share of that for a while.

[carbine7]

Thank you guys, you're real encouraging. If you have something helpful to say, say it. If you don't, we don't need to hear it. Thank you.

[Colonol Dekker]

We're not trying to dissuade you. We're just stating facts, stuff that needs to be done, "needs to be done" most of the time by the guys in the mod.

[General Battuta]

Yeah. Unfortunately, most new mod projects don't face these realities right off. It's a tough-love kind of help.

We'd love to see it happen, and we'll encourage you all the way. Just make sure you know what you're getting into.

[Mobius]

Self explanatory link:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,152.0.html

[Droid803]

What exactly does Halo for Freespace explain? It died because Devrous's computer died, if I recall correctly.
He was doing fine on it all by himself until then.

[Snail]

Self explanatory link:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,152.0.html

That was a silly example. Devrous was doing a very good one-man job, with dozens of models converted, until his computer crashed.

A better example would be, oh, I dunno, the hundreds of other overly ambitious mods in the graveyard.

[Mobius]

My post wasn't specific, it was a reference to disorganized/hopeless mods in general. A single-person team is vulnerable to crashes and bad RL issues but that's not the point.

The point is that bad things could happen to promising projects if there are no big and very well organized teams beyond them.

[General Battuta]

Unless you're, say, Darius.

EDIT: Stupid remark, because he didn't tackle an entire TC by himself.

[Snail]

Unless you're, say, Darius.

EDIT: Stupid remark, because he didn't tackle an entire TC by himself.

Really all he did was bring all the stuff together and bind them, and FRED. He didn't do the models or anything...

[General Battuta]

Yes. Full credit, of course -- he did it well -- but it's a different kind of project from a TC.

[Mobius]

Indeed, Blue Planet has an extraordinary FREDding behind it but it's not a TC.

[Snail]

Indeed, Blue Planet has an extraordinary FREDding behind it but it's not a TC.

If anything, Blue Planet shows that mission size doesn't dictate the quality of the mission.

[Mobius]

Look at the size of the modpack(textures, soundtracks, models) and let me know...