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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
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Anyways, back on topic.

So is there any canon evidence of relative time in the campaign? Such as dates in the missions?
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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
Well, in FS1 the Shivans appeared in early January 2335 (on 18th Jan we have the first mention of Shivans in the Command Briefing, not long after your first encounter with the SF Scorpions), and the destruction of Lucifer on 29th March (assuming that the pursue of the Lucy from the Delta Serpentis node to the Sol one didn't take longer than several hours).

It's harder to say about FS2, because there were no dates given, however, at the beginning of the campaign, we are told that the NTF rebellion has been ongoing for the past 18 months. And after being transferred to the GTV Psamtik, Admiral Khafre tells us that "we begin the process of rebuilding these systems after 18 months of bloodshed". This would mean, that between the time period between the destruction of the GTC Vigilant and the appearance of SJ Sathanas was about one month. That would correlate nicely with FS1, because the destruction of the Tombaugh station and the following appearance of Lucifer has happened about a month after the official confirmation of Shivan presence.

My guess is, that the SSI took about 2-3 months, about as long as the first one.
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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
We know that they were observing the Saths' field for 72 hours, right?

 

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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
Aye, and we know many starting times of the missions or various events, however that doesn't help us in determining the time frame of the SSI.
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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
There's transit time to consider too. For the player i mean, example being: getting ferried from the Aquitaine to the Iceni then back, (in soc loop one) could be days could be a week plus. Getting back to base after the Psamtik goes boom. General non-in-mission travel. Pilots on modern carriers can expect to spend as much as thirty hours in the air on average for every four to six weeks at sea.
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-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
We know that they were observing the Saths' field for 72 hours, right?

I said this because it might give a sense of approximately how much time takes place between missions.

 

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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
Give it about a year. Should be pretty close.
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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
The bottom line is from the first time you actualy engge the shivans to the time of the capella incident there was a very short time span i think. I mean we know they did not get a chance to evacuate every ship out of the nebula before the sath came through. But that leaves us with a time span between the destruction of the first Sath and the second retreat out of the nebula and GD . Perhaps a week or 2 !

So basicly a short amount of time in which time the Shivans managed to inflict severe dammage to the GTVA . Altough exclueding the whole capella incident i would say the GTVA was about even with the shivans and had it not been for the multiple Sath's the GTVA could of held out much longer perhaps even drive them back asuming they didnt have 80 or so destroyers on the other side of the nebula waiting to jump.

Even then thy could of efectevely baricaded the nodes with Mjolnirs and make short work out of almost anithing the shivans could gather.

Anyway about 2 or 3 month's for the second shivan invasion and what a year or so for the NTF rebellion.

Damn the GTVA had a pretty long war all in all. I say long because the SSI could not have been posible (not yet) without the interference of the NTF .
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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
The NTF rebellion took about nineteen to twenty months if you ask me. When Alpha 1 joined the crew of the Aquitaine, the civil war had already progressed for about eighteen months.
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Offline AlphaOne

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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
Oups got the timing wrong.  So basicly about 19-20 months plus another 2 or 3 for the whole shivan thing some of the timing might actualy overlap. So about 2 years give or take 2 months. Is that correct ? For the whole war i mean !

Oh yeah does anyone have any idea how much time passed for the Sath's to reach Capella from the nebula ??
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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
Depends what route they took..... :D
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
Give them about a week or three days at the least. I don't think the distance between jump nodes is less than 100 clicks.
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Re: The Second Shivan Incursion - how long was it?
First of all, it's stated at least twice that the NTF rebellion is at 18 months, once near the beginning of the campaign, and once when the NTF rebellion is all but over.

Secondly, the distance between jump nodes varies between star systems.  At least one group, from FS1, is set close together, but the bulk of the rest are seperated by distances only traversable by intra-system subspace.
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