[Charismatic]

Just never use "it is just a Game", or any variation

I think i was the first and foremost person to get pissed off when ppl told me Freespace was just a game-- as in Multiplayer i would get so worked and wound up and emotionally involved.

So, yeah, your dam right its not just a game.

[terran_emperor]

Also, please try avoid setting off TrashMan, and getting involved in the many great Snail-Mobius arguments.

 

*glares with the intensity of a thousand suns

You doom shall be slow and painfull


EDIT:
*shines with the intensity of a thousand suns  <- I like thisum better

I've heard the Stories directly from Karajorma himself, in person

[karajorma]

I think we've conclusively proved (Yet again!) why we don't have welcome speeches. Especially those mentioning members of the community. The thread rapidly becomes about the speech and not about welcoming the new member to the community.

It's actually rather off-putting rather than welcoming as it makes the original poster wonder why they'd want to hang around with a bunch of certified crazies instead of letting the gentle insanity of this place slowly become apparent as they get used to it.

So please. No more welcome speeches. Welcome the new person. Point them at FS2_Open and the TCs/mods if need be. Answer the questions they asked. But let's not try to hand out our own preconceptions about this place to new people. They should be allowed to form their own opinion.

I think i was the first and foremost person to get pissed off when ppl told me Freespace was just a game-- as in Multiplayer i would get so worked and wound up and emotionally involved.

So, yeah, your dam right its not just a game.

That isn't what I was on about actually. It is just a game and if you're getting wound up about it then you probably do need to be reminded of that.

I was actually referring to the annoying habit some people used to have of entering a debate about Freespace (For instance a 3 page debate on Shivan tactics) to remind everyone "it's just a game" in an attempt to stop the on-going discussion.

If people want to discuss such matters that is their choice. They know it's a game but if getting a good handle on Shivan tactics is something they want to discuss I see no reason why it shouldn't be allowed as long as it's on topic for that thread. Personally I found such debates added a lot to my understanding of the game. Saying "It's just a game" added nothing to the thread.

Fortunately my threat to ban the next person who said it seems to have had the desired effect.

[TrashMan]

I've heard the Stories directly from Karajorma himself, in person

Lies. All lies! He's an agent of the Government^(TM). Don't believe their lies! It's a conspiracy I tell you!

So please. No more welcome speeches. Welcome the new person. Point them at FS2_Open and the TCs/mods if need be. Answer the questions they asked. But let's not try to hand out our own preconceptions about this place to new people. They should be allowed to form their own opinion.

True, but we could still post a link to the thread with welecome speeches. We had some real jewels in there....altough a new member wouldn't get most of the puns
That thread is still around right?

[terran_emperor]

  since when is Government a TradeMark?

I think TrashMan, you've just proved my original point about not setting you off...Which i did with that post. 

Yeah that thread with many of those welcome speeches is still around. I linked to it in my first post

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I recall the title as :welcome:, which is funny, because doing so gives the old Welcome beam.

And yeah, it takes everyone a few months of bumping around to get used to HLP.

[karajorma]

True, but we could still post a link to the thread with welecome speeches. We had some real jewels in there....altough a new member wouldn't get most of the puns
That thread is still around right?

*Quietly moves the thread where no one can find it*

Seriously though I can't really see the point in saying "And this is how we used to welcome new people to the community 5 years ago before we realised it was getting bloody stupid" Why would anyone new to the community care?

We got rid of the welcome speech for a good reason.  All this would be is an attempt to backdoor it in, making even less sense than ever since now we're simply shoehorning in a link to something many new people aren't ever going to care about let alone when they're brand new to the community and good mods and improved graphics are what they are after.

The strange desire to bring the welcome speech back in a variety of stupid ways shows what was basically wrong with it in the first place. It became more about the person giving it getting their jollys rather than having anything to do with the new member and what they wanted. When you actually have people counting how many people they've beamed or welcomed you know it's no longer about the original meaning. It had simply become the HLP equivalent of the "FIRST!" post that plagues so many boards with regularly updated content. Most of those boards eventually get sick of the entire first page of a discussion escalating from simple "First!" to "First Page!" and start threatening to ban anyone doing it.

The welcome speech is a thing of the past. Any newbie who actually cares about it enough to want to know what it was will have little trouble finding out about it. But specifically linking to it just cause it's what people used to do makes about as much sense as linking to 3.5.5 cause people used to do that too.

I think TrashMan, you've just proved my original point about not setting you off...Which i did with that post. 

Which since Trashman hadn't even posted on this thread at the time puts you in the role of troublemaker/troll. So watch it!

[Rodo]

the poor guy must be terrified about opening a new thread by now.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I still get nervous over starting a new thread even after 1800 posts.

[TrashMan]

You should be ...you should be..

[diabolical laugh]MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA* [/diabolical laugh]




* The Diabolical Laugh (tm) is a copyright of EvilInc (tm). All rights reserved. Unauthorised use is punishable by article 14 of the Big Book of Evil. Or we'll just shoot you. Or use you as bait for a hero-trap. Or whatever. Evil is not known for sticking to laws anyway.

[Romanmolf]

[dragonsniper]

You should be ...you should be..

[diabolical laugh]MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA* [/diabolical laugh]




* The Diabolical Laugh (tm) is a copyright of EvilInc (tm). All rights reserved. Unauthorised use is punishable by article 14 of the Big Book of Evil. Or we'll just shoot you. Or use you as bait for a hero-trap. Or whatever. Evil is not known for sticking to laws anyway.

[Droid803]

lol.

Yeah, I think most people get nervous when starting threads...well, at least now I know I'm not alone in my cowardice

[karajorma]

If you're not considering whether every post let alone every thread has value before pressing the Post button, you're not doing it right

[Androgeos Exeunt]

In retrospect, karajorma, I agree with you about the discarding of the welcome speeches.

HLP, after all, is more like a bar than a ballroom. We sit around, trade punches, secrets and information to FreeSpace and other minor things informally. Even I use smilies.

See?

[Jeff Vader]

HLP, after all, is more like a bar than a ballroom. We sit around, trade punches, secrets and information to FreeSpace and other minor things informally. Even I use smilies.

Indeed. It would be awkward if a group of us was sipping some fine brandy and one of us started a conversation, only to have some bozo run in and yell "First!!1" at our faces. Or alternatively if a new person arrived at our "bar" asking a question only to be forced to listen to long, illogical and downright weird speeches as a response. Not to mention having people throwing him with numerous glowsticks that have the phrase "Welcome to the HLPBB!" written on them. One glowstick would suffice.

[terran_emperor]

Okay...I'm going to take this oppotunity to do something i've never seen done before.

I'm going to make a public appology...to TrashMan.

My comment about not setting you off and subseqent comments I made directed towards you were intended as a jest in good humour. If i offended you then i appologise.

[Colonol Dekker]

TAkes a big man to say sorry, 

[Stormkeeper]

Takes a big man to say sorry, 

And spell apology wrongly while he was at it.

[TrashMan]

Okay...I'm going to take this oppotunity to do something i've never seen done before.

I'm going to make a public appology...to TrashMan.

My comment about not setting you off and subseqent comments I made directed towards you were intended as a jest in good humour. If i offended you then i appologise.

I wasn't offended, but was just messing with ya.
I loves a good joke...even when it's directed at me

You know what they say about humor - if you can't make (or take) jokes about yourself, then you ain't got none.