[General Battuta]

Hey guys, thanks for the info. I managed to finish the mission and I also saved the AWACS, by chasing bombs and bombers.

Unfortunately, I don't play the game anymore. Bearbaiting has been enough for me. I have lost all faith and interest in the game because of this mission. I'm playing video games to entertain myself, not to get hours of frustration.

It's a pity, because the game has been extremely enjoyable up until now, way ahead of its time.

Cheers.

What? Please don't give up.

We can walk you through this. On 'very easy' it shouldn't actually be that difficult. It sounds like you've just missed a few basic targeting controls. 'V' will target the turret beneath your reticle -- then approach the beam cannons from inside the arm and launch your bombs while afterburning towards them.

Are you sure you're on 'very easy'?
 
You're closing in on the most spectacular parts of the game. It'd be a crime to abandon it now. Bearbaiting is notoriously difficult to do perfectly, but it's easy enough to complete it. Don't worry about getting the flak cannon or rear beams or anything like that -- just take out two (2, only 2!) of the Sathanas' forward beams, then disable the Beleth and call it a day.

Don't shoot for perfection.

[Rodo]

did any of you guys saved Kappa wing survivor?? I just redyed but to no avail..

Redied? K... I'd think that dying repeatedly doesn't solve a lot of problems.

Haven't familiarized myself with the structure 'n stuff of this mission but I'd bet that it's one of those "this is meant to happen so just sit down, shut up and play the next mission" sort of things.

selected the wrong word on the spell checker, the word was tried.

[Jeff Vader]

Hey guys, thanks for the info. I managed to finish the mission and I also saved the AWACS, by chasing bombs and bombers.

Unfortunately, I don't play the game anymore. Bearbaiting has been enough for me. I have lost all faith and interest in the game because of this mission. I'm playing video games to entertain myself, not to get hours of frustration.

It's a pity, because the game has been extremely enjoyable up until now, way ahead of its time.

Cheers.

What? Please don't give up.

We can walk you through this. On 'very easy' it shouldn't actually be that difficult. It sounds like you've just missed a few basic targeting controls. 'V' will target the turret beneath your reticle -- then approach the beam cannons from inside the arm and launch your bombs while afterburning towards them.

Are you sure you're on 'very easy'?
 
You're closing in on the most spectacular parts of the game. It'd be a crime to abandon it now. Bearbaiting is notoriously difficult to do perfectly, but it's easy enough to complete it. Don't worry about getting the flak cannon or rear beams or anything like that -- just take out two (2, only 2!) of the Sathanas' forward beams, then disable the Beleth and call it a day.

Don't shoot for perfection.

Particularily since, as it was said, you can skip a mission after failing it five times in a row. There's nothing wrong with it.

I was frustrated numerous times, when first playing FreeSpace 2. In The King's Gambit where I always managed to let at least two ships slip away, in Bearbaiting where I couldn't figure out the proper tactic for taking out the beam cannons, in Exodus where I always seemed to lose at least two ships and so on. But I kept trying and finally managed to succeed in all missions that were difficult.

[Lucika]

For God's sake!!!
If you fail a mission 5 times, then you are allowed to continue!!!!
Even you failed to notice that giant tab, or you were so ....... that you didn't even tried it for 5 goddamn times!

By the way, Mission 12 was the one what seriously made me to hate EVERY SINGLE barracuda.

[Galemp]

Err, if you're having trouble on Bearbaiting and A Game of Tag... then I strongly suggest you skip the second loop.

[Droid803]

As lightning fall is easy enough. The Shivans are barely a threat.
And the Terran Mara is OPed so Into the Lion's Den isn't as hard as it would seem (though I do recall getting mangled by the Nebiros's rear SAAAs...)

[eliex]

As Lightning Fall is like the worst EMP nightmare ever. I kept on getting confused by the different nav buoys so I went forward . . . then backward . . . and forward until it got to 25mins.
  's FREDders for that mission must have been snickering all the way while FREDding that mission.

[Droid803]

I got over thirty Shivan kills though, and the only damage I took was from collisions

[eliex]

Well, they are Aeshmas so what else can you expect? 

[Retsof]

now that you mention this mission... did any of you guys saved Kappa wing survivor?? I just redyed but to no avail.. maybe it's meant to die 

He is meant to die, but you can save him if you tell him to jump out before he gets splattered.  I've done it.  Command just doesn't go through the last half of the dramatic dialogue.

[Spidey-]

never give up, never surrender?

yeah, sorry

bearbaiting is okay

your wingmen can help, the support ship is a godsend, and you'll probably take more damge from your own bombs than the flak, so long as you put some more energy to the shields

'exodus' on the other hand...

[Androgeos Exeunt]

What I never do on Bearbaiting is to destroy the flak cannons first. I tend to keep my Trebuchets for the main guns as well.

[eliex]

When bombing the frontal beams, I just divert ALL my ship's energy to shields, and only send some over to my engines when moving over to another beam.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Unfortunately, I don't play the game anymore. Bearbaiting has been enough for me. I have lost all faith and interest in the game because of this mission. I'm playing video games to entertain myself, not to get hours of frustration.

       Wow, you must be pretty new to video games. Back in the day Hours of Frustration is what games were all about
       That being said, everyone has a tough time on Bearbaiting. I probably had to try 'er 18 times or so my first time around.

[Rodo]

I probably had to try 'er 18 times or so my first time around.

No way!!! you were playing on insane or something like that?

[Akalabeth Angel]

I probably had to try 'er 18 times or so my first time around.

No way!!! you were playing on insane or something like that?

      Nah, I was probably on the default Easy. I didn't skip it though. I did, actually finish it, eventually. The only mission I remember skipping is Slaying Ravana. I played that mission a whole bunch of times, and it never occurred to me to take cover with allied Corvette or Cruiser, or whatever (I don't even know what it is because I've never flown to it). I always viewed it as a separate battle that didn't involve what I was doing, so the Shivan Basilisks and friends would eventually overwhelm me because of course my wingmen get shot to pieces.

[MT]

I play on medium and I could never kill off those flak guns. The trebuchets refuse to hit at the proper angle to damage them.

I have to restart nearly a dozen times just because my wingmen couldn't cover me while support ship reloads me or the helios do insufficient damage even though I approached at the appropriate angle. I don't want to restart more just to get those guns.

Funny, I never found A game of Tag tough. Perhaps that's due to Alpha 2 suiciding too fast that the reinforcements arrive to protect the AWACs and the Shivan bombers got lost in the fog.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Funny, I never found A game of Tag tough. Perhaps that's due to Alpha 2 suiciding too fast that the reinforcements arrive to protect the AWACs and the Shivan bombers got lost in the fog.

Same here. In fact, I find A Game of TAG to be one of the easier missions in the entire campaign. Single-fire TAG-As and that's it.

[Falcon]

It's best to order your wingmen to engage enemy than use a protect my target order. They function better on that order, especially on insane difficulty. For me I usually tell them to engage when an enemy jumps in and once the area is clear, order them to either form on me or protect a target that's moving so they'll be close by when another wave jumps in. Following that sequence throughout each mission has saved me of wingmen and helped me get through each mission, and has kept important targets alive.

Hope this helps.

[Lucika]

What is the difference between the "destroy target" and the "engage enemy" commands?