[chief1983]

Dec 13 23:42:07 <Brand-X>   too bad we couldn't have a dynamic campaign where the collie could have survived
Dec 13 23:42:14 <HerraTohtori>   their finest hour? the one where collie dies by surprise sathanas
Dec 13 23:43:08 <Brand-X>   Yeah, that's the one, "You beat the Sathanis, congratulations... HA HA FOOLED YOU"
Dec 13 23:44:00 <Brand-X>   I think that was the biggest reason why I liked FS1's story over FS2.  in FS1 you had a goal, in FS2 after that it's pretty much just "Hey, you're ****ed, so deal with it"
Dec 13 23:44:03 *   HerraTohtori whines a bit more about the crappy router
Dec 13 23:44:12 <Brand-X>   FS1 was like "Save humanity! Go Go Go!"
Dec 13 23:44:31 <Brand-X>   FS2 was like "Hey save these people, they'll die later anyways but might as well give it a shot"
Dec 13 23:44:36 <HerraTohtori>   FS2 was just like being trapped in a constantly growing ****storm
Dec 13 23:45:12 <chief1983>   I think it would have been better, had their been an FS3
Dec 13 23:45:18 <chief1983>   then it could have been the Empire of the series
Dec 13 23:45:20 <HerraTohtori>   starting from the Great Hunt
Dec 13 23:45:39 <chief1983>   and FS3 could have been the Return
Dec 13 23:45:47 <chief1983>   hell they could have named it Return of the Ancients
Dec 13 23:46:06 <chief1983>   **** now I have to go make a campaign called FS3:  Return of the Ancients and see if I can get banned for it
Dec 13 23:46:22 <mura>   just make the topic
Dec 13 23:46:35 <chief1983>   I think _that_ would finally get me a custom title
Dec 13 23:46:36 <HerraTohtori>   
Dec 13 23:46:37 <chief1983>   lol
Dec 13 23:46:48 <mura>   hahaha
Dec 13 23:46:49 <HerraTohtori>   do it
Dec 13 23:47:04 <HerraTohtori>   with seventeen dozen sathanases and lucifers
Dec 13 23:47:10 <HerraTohtori>   engaging an armada of colossi

Come on though.  You know I'm right, :V: was totally going to rip off LucasArts.  And then Lucas went crazy right about the time FS2 came out, and they decided to bail on that idea.  Thanks for coming, shows start every night at 7.

[Vertigo 7]

i call dibs on mission tester!

[Martinus]

You reckon :V: were on track to try a BOE mission?

In my experience nobody's ever pulled off a battle of that scale without it turning into a joke.

[karajorma]

Bah. If only to stop you whining about it.

[chief1983]

Aww, see I thought just bringing up the lack of it on occasion ensured that I wouldn't get one.  I guess that backfired.  (sort of?)

[Ace]

What's always funny is when someone does a mission with tons of ships and fighting which does work, it's not called a BOE

[General Battuta]

You reckon :V: were on track to try a BOE mission?

In my experience nobody's ever pulled off a battle of that scale without it turning into a joke.

WHY ARE YOU NOT CALLED MAEGLAMOR?

CHANGE IT BACK!

[tinfoil]

you uh... gonna keep doing that?

[Charismatic]

HE SAID FS3; GET HIM!

J\k. A banning will suit him just fine

[chief1983]

But really...IF there had been another game...Return of the Ancients would have been a badass plotline.

[Jeff Vader]

If we were to further ripoff Lucas, would that mean that Alpha 1 and his sister were the last living Ancients, with Alpha 1's father being the right hand of the (Shivan) Emperor, who'd defect to the "light" side at the end, before dying and...

wat

[Vip]

Then lets use something a bit more original than the Star Wars. Make the Shivans miraculously return after 40 years and nearly destroy the entire GTVA, forcing a ragtag fleet under the command of Admiral Petrarch and a ridiculously-appointed President of the GTVA to go on a journey to find another home where the Ancients, who were actually the predecessors of the humanity, went several thousand years ago...

... wait, that sounds awfully familiar

[Androgeos Exeunt]

What's always funny is when someone does a mission with tons of ships and fighting which does work, it's not called a BOE

Isn't a BoE mission one where you don't have to do anything?

[Jeff Vader]

What's always funny is when someone does a mission with tons of ships and fighting which does work, it's not called a BOE

Isn't a BoE mission one where you don't have to do anything?

I'd rather say that not having to do anything is a consequence of a BoE mission. A BoE mission itself is... well, like the BoE. Ships everywhere, laz0rs flinging to all existing directions, everyone has a panic, yet it seems like an individual cannot accomplish anything major by himself.

[Black Wolf]

What's always funny is when someone does a mission with tons of ships and fighting which does work, it's not called a BOE

Isn't a BoE mission one where you don't have to do anything?

The two tend to be closely related. A BoE mission is a mission where the player can't affect the outcome. This is most commonly encountered in missions that are so full of capships that they resemble the BoE from SW, hence the name, but not always.

It's not really a well defined term.

[Herra Tohtori]

FS2 Alpha 1: No, my father didn't fight in the Great War. He was a navigator on a beer freighter.
Petrarch: That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals; he felt he should've stayed here and not gotten involved.
Alpha 1: You fought in the Great War?
Petrarch: Yes. I was once a GTI pilot, the same as your father.
Alpha 1: I wish I'd known him.
Petrarch: He was the best fighter pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. I understand that you've become quite a good pilot yourself.
[sorrowfully]
Petrarch: And he was a good friend.

...

Petrarch: I have something here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough, but your uncle wouldn't allow it. He feared you might follow old Petrarch on some damn fool idealistic crusade like your father did.
Alpha 1: What is it?
Petrarch: Your father's GTF Valkyrie. This is the ship of a GTI pilot. Not as clumsy or random as a Myrmidon or Herc 2; an elegant fighter for a more civilized age. For over two centuries, the GTI pilots were the guardians of peace and justice in the Galactic Terran Alliance. Before the dark times... before the Great War and the Hades Rebellion.

...

Admiral Bosch: There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you.
[pauses]
Bosch: Alpha 1, you do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy.
Alpha 1: I'll never join you!
Bosch: If you only knew the power of the Shivans. Petrarch never told you what happened to your father.
Alpha 1: He told me enough! He told me *you* killed him!
Bosch: No. *I* am your father.
Alpha 1: No. No. That's not true. That's impossible!
Bosch: Search your feelings, you *know* it to be true!
Alpha 1: [anguished] No! No!


 

[Rodo]

OHH bosch is Alpha's 1 father!!! 


jajaja nice

[terran_emperor]

FS2 Alpha 1: No, my father didn't fight in the Great War. He was a navigator on a beer freighter.
Petrarch: That's what your uncle told you. He didn't hold with your father's ideals; he felt he should've stayed here and not gotten involved.
Alpha 1: You fought in the Great War?
Petrarch: Yes. I was once a GTI pilot, the same as your father.
Alpha 1: I wish I'd known him.
Petrarch: He was the best fighter pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior. I understand that you've become quite a good pilot yourself.
[sorrowfully]
Petrarch: And he was a good friend.

...

Petrarch: I have something here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough, but your uncle wouldn't allow it. He feared you might follow old Petrarch on some damn fool idealistic crusade like your father did.
Alpha 1: What is it?
Petrarch: Your father's GTF Valkyrie. This is the ship of a GTI pilot. Not as clumsy or random as a Myrmidon or Herc 2; an elegant fighter for a more civilized age. For over two centuries, the GTI pilots were the guardians of peace and justice in the Galactic Terran Alliance. Before the dark times... before the Great War and the Hades Rebellion.

...

Admiral Bosch: There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you.
[pauses]
Bosch: Alpha 1, you do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy.
Alpha 1: I'll never join you!
Bosch: If you only knew the power of the Shivans. Petrarch never told you what happened to your father.
Alpha 1: He told me enough! He told me *you* killed him!
Bosch: No. *I* am your father.
Alpha 1: No. No. That's not true. That's impossible!
Bosch: Search your feelings, you *know* it to be true!
Alpha 1: [anguished] No! No!


 

 

Okay. that HAS to go in the next JAD in someform

[Renegade Paladin]

You reckon :V: were on track to try a BOE mission?

In my experience nobody's ever pulled off a battle of that scale without it turning into a joke.

X-Wing: Alliance did, but then that actually was the Battle of Endor, so maybe it doesn't really count.   

[terran_emperor]

Well, duuuh

The Battle of Endor is obviously going to suffer from BOE syndrome otherwise the syndrome is misnammed