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Most [Useless] Shivan Craft

SF Dragon
1 (1.3%)
SF Manticore
7 (9.1%)
SF Basilisk
30 (39%)
SF Mara
0 (0%)
SF Astaroth
6 (7.8%)
SF Aeshma
25 (32.5%)
SB Nephlim
0 (0%)
SB Seraphim
1 (1.3%)
SB Nahema
1 (1.3%)
SB Taurvi
6 (7.8%)

Total Members Voted: 77

Voting closed: March 13, 2002, 10:01:50 am

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Offline TopAce

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Reply #60 on: April 29, 2003, 04:38:57 pm
No need to worry, Petrarch! That thread is already closed. At least from my part.
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Reply #61 on: April 29, 2003, 05:02:45 pm
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No need to worry, Petrarch! That thread is already closed. At least from my part.


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Reply #62 on: April 30, 2003, 07:08:08 am
Voted Ashema,  mostly because its slow, gets capped with 2 'poons, doesnt do that much damage and is butt-ugly compared to say Mara or the Manticore.
 

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Reply #63 on: April 30, 2003, 03:07:41 pm
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That's right, but I have doubts if the Seraphim is the best bomber, my personal subjective opinion prefers a more maneuverable one, like the Taurvi, or the Nahema.

I am still surprised nobody has voted the Nephilim yet.:blah:


The Nephlim's got some mean turrets on it that make it tough to kill in a Perseus.  The armor is strong enough to last a long time while the turrets cut you apart.

Nahama's are pretty easy to kill, but those suckers are fast...I've probably lost more ships to Nahemas than any other Shivan bomber.
 

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Reply #64 on: May 01, 2003, 12:48:25 pm
The worst piece of junk in the Shivan arsenal has to be without a doubt the Shaitan. No wonder it never made an appearance in FS2. ;)

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Reply #65 on: May 01, 2003, 04:21:57 pm
Ok, since this topic has been bumped to current status now, I might as well throw in my opinions.  Canon shivan ships, it would have to be the Moloch.  It would be a complete piece of junk without the fighterbay, and :v: never used that in the main campaign anyway.  A waste of table space if you ask me.
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Reply #66 on: May 02, 2003, 03:13:28 am
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Reply #67 on: May 02, 2003, 04:30:05 am
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Canon shivan ships, it would have to be the Moloch.  It would be a complete piece of junk without the fighterbay.


But It did have the fighterbay, didn't it? I wish there'd been a Terran, or even Vasudan vaient. Could have opened up masses of strategic situations. But as for the Moloch itself, I disagree that it's a poor ship - more to the point it was just used Poorly - imgine a Moploch jumps in right next to, say, an unescorted Deimos and launches Maras to disarm the Deimos. With decent AI, it's a practically guaranteed Shivan victory.

Could have used an LRed though...
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Reply #68 on: May 03, 2003, 10:50:18 pm
I voted for the SF Aeshma.
This fighter is an example of a ship that is almost equal in firepower to the Basilisk but I think it has a weaker hull

Both ships will melt away in no time with a pair of Prometheus' (or even the HL-7)
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Reply #69 on: May 03, 2003, 10:53:12 pm
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Originally posted by TopAce


That's right, but I have doubts if the Seraphim is the best bomber, my personal subjective opinion prefers a more maneuverable one, like the Taurvi, or the Nahema.

I am still surprised nobody has voted the Nephilim yet.:blah:


The Seraphim can be compared to the terran Ursa; it's very powerful but flies like a penguin

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Reply #70 on: May 13, 2003, 12:55:09 pm
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The Seraphim can be compared to the terran Ursa; it's very powerful but flies like a penguin

(and why am i about to get banned?)


Penguins cannot fly:)
Das date ist 13rd May. Still no votes for the Nephilim!
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Reply #71 on: May 13, 2003, 12:56:22 pm
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Penguins cannot fly:)
Das date ist 13rd May. Still no votes for the Nephilim!


ok, why the f*ck didthis get bumped?
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Reply #72 on: May 13, 2003, 12:58:51 pm
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Originally posted by killadonuts
I voted for the SF Aeshma.
This fighter is an example of a ship that is almost equal in firepower to the Basilisk but I think it has a weaker hull

Both ships will melt away in no time with a pair of Prometheus' (or even the HL-7)


Aeshma is truly worse than the Basilisk. Saw the 'firepower trick' in the case of the Aeshma? It looks it has two cannons, but it has four, just one firing point is set for two lasers.
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Reply #73 on: May 13, 2003, 01:10:56 pm
Lock this before it is bumped again.
 

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Reply #74 on: May 14, 2003, 08:08:22 pm
Lock it please?
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Reply #75 on: May 15, 2003, 05:41:05 am
No such luck....

But the Nephilm is tugh little bugar...:hopping:
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Reply #76 on: May 16, 2003, 05:15:55 am
Fine, fine - thy salvation arriveth. ;)
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