[Bobboau]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j0wedKH98UcD_b0W-ZGcWsepQ1GQD95FCBG00

good thing they can cure autism and seizures and **** by making you hold some cans, eh?

[Flipside]

Yup, Sharon suffers from photosensitive epilepsy, and if it weren't for her medication, she would have seizures on a regular basis. Whilst Kawasaki isn't quite the same as simple epilepsy, under the Church of Lientology, poor kid probably wasn't getting the treatment he needed.

So, yes, I agree with the thread title.

[Bobboau]

I have a feeling the Kawasaki story is BS, he was autistic. but autism goes against Travolta's religion.

[Solatar]

Maybe he was behind on a detox payment?

According to my quick and possibly erroneous Wikipedia "research" on Kawasaki disease you die from heart problems if you're one of the 1% who die when the disease is untreated.

Seizures sound like something caused by screwy treatment. Why anybody would turn down tried and proven medical techniques for medieval medicine is beyond me.

[Bobboau]

because he has had in hammered into his head every day for the last two decades that if he so much as takes an aspirin his body will be possessed by the a thousand evil alien spirits, and anyone who might have mentioned this sounds kind of funny he has long seance been bared from talking with.

the 'tech' always works, if it doesn't it's because you aren't good enough at applying it.

so that's how this is going to be played out to Travolta, you didn't give us enough money now your kid is dead. and he will accept that.

from what I've heard the autopsy showed no medication in his system.

BTW 80% of Kawasaki sufferers are younger than 5, most people suffer from it once. no matter how much he says it his kid was autistic, even his brother has said as much. he just can't admit in public that there are things that saunas, toxic doses of vitamin B3 and divulging your most damning secrets on tape to a criminal cult while holding a primitive lie detector can't solve.

[BlackDove]

God I hope they jail both parents or take the other child away for this ****.

[iamzack]

Same old, same old. Y'all act like religion doesn't prevent perfectly preventable deaths from being... prevented... on a regular basis.

Scientologists = complicated snake-handling Baptists

[Nuclear1]

Except mainstream Christians aren't anywhere near as nutbag as CoS.

[iamzack]

What defines "mainstream"?

[Nuclear1]

Like, the ones that don't demonize flu shots, as in: every single Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, or Catholic church I grew up around.

[Mongoose]

What defines "mainstream"?

Those of us who go to church once a week, try to love thy neighbor, and generally leave it at that, pretty much.

[Bobboau]

however unlike snake-handling Baptists the Church of Scientology have incomprehensibly vast fortunes and a veritable army of major media players. they can do a **** tome more damage then any regular old kooky religion.

for example, they want to destroy the psychology psychiatric and pharmaceutical professions. which means they are constantly trying to undermine the work of actual medical science in the media and on the capitol because it helps them turn a buck.

[Bobboau]

I just stumbled across this old gem, it's from about two years ago, but I think it is very relevent to this issue, given how they are spinning there position on "physical" illnesses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfu7Sr50N7U
I have no idea how long youtube will allow that blatant violation of copyright up on there servers so yall better watch it quick, if it goes down, tell me so I can find another copy. this little clip shows you fairly well how the church wants to deal with mental health.

[BloodEagle]

 

The Book of Revelations?

Why in the Hell is he mentioning that?

....

[Bobboau]

"scientology is compatible with all other religions"

it's good imagery, and most people get what he means.

[karajorma]

To be honest I could only listen to about a minute of that hokum before I had to close the window. Do you have the exact time when he starts going on about violence?

[Bobboau]

2 minutes in there is an animation showing a giant hand grenade (labeled psych buster) blowing up a bunch of buildings with labels on them, the only one I can make out is 'government' but I'm sure 'big pharma' (ect) is in there, there are a bunch of other explosions with 'psychs' as there target over the next 20 seconds.
start at 1:40 to put it into context, or 2:00 to save brain cells.

at about 2:30 he starts talking about how there plans are going, keep in mind they like to try to tell people that the CoS and the CCHR are not directly linked.

2:58 "while it takes 8 years for a psych to earn his license, we've already yanked 21 in the last 4 weeks"

there are a few other random explosions while he talks during the vid.

BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH psychs BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH BLAH BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH Apocalypse now BLAH BLAH. BLAH BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH psych ecosystem BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH give us your money BLAH BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH BLAHBLAHBLAH. BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH psychs BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAHBLAHBLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAHBLAH BLAH. hail xenu, hip hip horay!

keep in mind when people say 'you need to hear both sides', this is there side, so listen well.

[Bobboau]

oh, did a search for: scientology epilepsy seizures
and found this relivent vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMom3y1zyZU
important time is 0:40 - 1:20.
considering what they have been saying the last few days about scientology's stance on medicine (that is that scientology isn't against medicine and you should seek medical treatment for "physical illnesses") in the context of Jett's death, I think that's fairly damning.

[karajorma]

I love how the storm of bad British press is basically stuff from the Daily Record and Daily Mail.

Don't know much about the Record but most Brits on this board know that the Mail isn't even worth wiping your arse with.

[portej05]

I love how the storm of bad British press is basically stuff from the Daily Record and Daily Mail.

We've just had a news 'teaser' on channel 7 for 'Wind turbines and UFOs in Brittain tune in to find out more'. I changed the channel, but I assume they're referring to [urhttp://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/01/08/aliens-hate-green-energy/]this[/url]