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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Yeah the -fov of .75 is way too high, we'll probably try to default it to .5 or .4.
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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Very wide default field of view is one reason. Other is lack of detail. When there's no reference for size, judging distances becomes really difficult. Your speed is also not that apparent and that causes a certain sort of blindness to the massiveness of the ships.

New models of Orion, Hecate, Aeolus, Levy, Deimos etc. feel a lot bigger than the original models such as Hatshepsut, Colossus, Sathanas even. And one thing the models in this TC won't be lacking is detail... so when you are close to the ship the amount of detail should fairly well. And changing the field of view is one thing, but when the cockpits are going to be put into the game, there will be an absolute and desperate need for user-adjustable, in-game controllable field of view instead of the static setting by command line.

Without that, there is not much sense in cockpits at all, because to have useful field of view for aiming and firing your weapons, you will see very little of the cockpit around you...
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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
TrackIR support added 6DOF didn't it?  Or just 4?
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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Cole, can you link to that instead of posting it in-line? Some of us still want to play. Thanks.

And BTW, a Deimos is as long as the Empire State Building is tall.
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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Cole, can you link to that instead of posting it in-line? Some of us still want to play. Thanks.

Yeah seconded.

And yeah, TrackIR has 6DOF in FSO.
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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Link what?
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Never mind, I fixed it
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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Holy crap! Now that scale actually looks realistic! Wouldn't want to go up against that without my squad. Puts XWA to shame.

 

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Actually, XWA had the star destroyer at 3200m long.  It was the lack of detail and wide FOV that killed the sense of scale
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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Cole, can you link to that instead of posting it in-line? Some of us still want to play. Thanks.

And BTW, a Deimos is as long as the Empire State Building is tall.

Deimos is way longer, even with the spire on the ESB. 450 odd for the building, 700+ for the deimos.
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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Who said anything about 8km?  The Executor is 19km.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Super-class_Star_Destroyer
I used this and XWA as reference.
I always though 8km is quite enough for SSD ,not to mention it shouldn't be bigger than Emperor's flagship.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse-class_Star_Dreadnaught

We have 20km ships anyway ( I can point out three: TSJ Icanus ,SSJ Gigas and GVSJ Sehat-thor ).
And don't forget about 40km beasts featured in TBP.

 

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XWA ISD I and II were 2km long. The XWAU ISDs are the correct 1,6km size

 

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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Every possible angle on Executor length examined to death:

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ssd.html#size

The conclusion:
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If the star destroyer length is accepted as 1.6km then the Executor's length is given by the length ratios between the two ships. Observations from scenes in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi where one ship occludes another constrain the length ratio to be within the range of 11.0 to 12.0, corresponding to an absolute range of 17.6km to 19.2km. Measurements based on the collision between Executor and Death Star II are inconclusive, because the curvature of the battle station's horizon cannot be measured with sufficient precision. A chain of geometric reasoning involving two independent Executor broadside views and the size of the sensor globes indicates lower limits of 16.2km and 18.1km. The conventions of the construction of warship models indicate a length of close to 17.2km. Direct measurements of the Executor model using the standard KDY command tower as a yardstick indicate a length of 17.6±0.2km, which is consistent with the photogrammetric methods and other approaches. I conclude that Executor-class command ships are somewhere between 17.4km and 17.9km long; and certainly much more than the mere 8km claimed by some Roleplaying Game sources.


 

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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Who said anything about 8km?  The Executor is 19km.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Super-class_Star_Destroyer
I used this and XWA as reference.
I always though 8km is quite enough for SSD ,not to mention it shouldn't be bigger than Emperor's flagship.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse-class_Star_Dreadnaught
Once in Roleplaybooks the Executer was 8km. Then they noticed that the SSD inMovie is even larger, it became 12,8 km. But that wasn't enogh, so it became 19km. Look at Starwars.com, that offical.

The 19km Executer isn't bigger then the Eclipse. Its larger. ;) The Eclipse' Hull is verry high. So you can say that the Eclipse is the bigger ship. :D

 

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Heh great work brand.  Its always a laugh looking at ISD greebles and trying to figure out what battleship model they came from :D
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I would go for 17.4km if I must abandon 8km conception (which makes more sence than all others).
And if I were an Emperor I would order the builders to make Eclipse the largest battleship in the universe ,regardless of the side from which it's viewed.  :)

 

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Yeah actually I forget why I put 19 on the website, we'll probably go with the smallest likely correct figure we can get away with.  17.4 is what it will likely end up as, should someone ever decide to model that graebled beast.
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Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Can't wait to see this model once all the textures have been applied great work so far.

 
Re: Imperial II-class Star Destroyer Reborn
Yeah actually I forget why I put 19 on the website, we'll probably go with the smallest likely correct figure we can get away with.  17.4 is what it will likely end up as, should someone ever decide to model that graebled beast.
I thought it was 17.6?

Actually, XWA had the star destroyer at 3200m long.  It was the lack of detail and wide FOV that killed the sense of scale
Really, the FOV? Any idea what it's set at then? Also, I play with the XWAU. Haven't played vanilla in years.