[BengalTiger]

If he can hide in buildings, I'd say yes....

And why an engineering unit is 50 meters from a mortar, and doesn't bother to search the town is beyond me....

Oh- and if you find that .50 cal sniper (or MG, whatever), say hello to him from me with an artillery shell.

EDIT: Before they figure out that Engineers know how to CQB, I suggest using ALL mortar shells and turning them into the MOAIED, or Mother Of All IED's.

[ssmit132]

For some stupid reason, some guy tried to shoot at them with a javelin missile. I'm guessing you all know how that turned out .

He missed?

[Polpolion]

For some stupid reason, some guy tried to shoot at them with a javelin missile. I'm guessing you all know how that turned out .

He missed?

Javelins are strictly an anti-vehicle weapon. They don't work so well against our hordes of suicide donkeys. Once it arced up at ~3000m or whatever, it couldn't find its target because its target wasn't a large vehicle.

If he can hide in buildings, I'd say yes....

And why an engineering unit is 50 meters from a mortar, and doesn't bother to search the town is beyond me....

Oh- and if you find that .50 cal sniper (or MG, whatever), say hello to him from me with an artillery shell.

EDIT: Before they figure out that Engineers know how to CQB, I suggest using ALL mortar shells and turning them into the MOAIED, or Mother Of All IED's.

I guess they just don't expect our guys to be that far south. And I will say hello to the .50 cal gun for you, but would a 125mm depleted uranium round fired from a T-72 inside a building at point-blank range suffice instead of a mortar shell?

[ssmit132]

For some stupid reason, some guy tried to shoot at them with a javelin missile. I'm guessing you all know how that turned out .

He missed?

Javelins are strictly an anti-vehicle weapon. They don't work so well against our hordes of suicide donkeys. Once it arced up at ~3000m or whatever, it couldn't find its target because its target wasn't a large vehicle.

Ah, okay. He must have thought he could counter the donkeys with sheer firepower or something.

[Bob-san]

Why not avoid direct-engagement until they're just about to figure out that you can hide in buildings? Anyways--I'd say engage a few front-line units and send them to the back to the engineering unit. When they're about to arrive, destroy the engineers. Make them waste time and then slaughter the returning tanks.

Anyways--with the donkeys--how much damage can they do?

[carbine7]

I think one of the best things you could do right now, that is, after taking out the Strykers, is to take out the US CAS and recon forces, because information is their only advantage at this point[that we know of]. Should also send one little ingsignificant unit down the side of the map they're ignoring so you can see what they've got cookin. btw, I wish I had that class  

[Polpolion]

Why not avoid direct-engagement until they're just about to figure out that you can hide in buildings? Anyways--I'd say engage a few front-line units and send them to the back to the engineering unit. When they're about to arrive, destroy the engineers. Make them waste time and then slaughter the returning tanks.

Anyways--with the donkeys--how much damage can they do?

The problem is, the Americans have a mission to accomplish. We weren't just put on the board and told "kill each other". I don't know their objective, but I think it has something to do with the crops in the valley, in which I have a few tanks hiding, a truck, a ZPU, and 5 RPGs.

And the donkeys; I'm really not sure how much damage they can do. I'm using them more as a distraction. I mean, what would you do if randomly you saw an epic donkey charge? If they ignore the donkeys and keep moving, eventually the donkeys will catch up and kill them when they're fighting our main forces. If the see them then, then our main forces will kill them while they're killing the charging donkeys.

I think one of the best things you could do right now, that is, after taking out the Strykers, is to take out the US CAS and recon forces, because information is their only advantage at this point[that we know of]. Should also send one little ingsignificant unit down the side of the map they're ignoring so you can see what they've got cookin. btw, I wish I had that class  

The thing is, once we take out the strykers, we've won. They're a stryker company; everything they have is in strykers: their artillery, their engineers, their infantry, their big guns, their commanders. We need to know which strykers to take out. We take out the right ones, we cripple their leadership and maybe we'll kill their air operater and prevent more CAS runs.

[carbine7]

Ahh....I see. I doubt they would have immediately gone to endgame though. Their main forces are somewhere else. Unless they're that stupid, of course 

[BengalTiger]

I guess they just don't expect our guys to be that far south. And I will say hello to the .50 cal gun for you, but would a 125mm depleted uranium round fired from a T-72 inside a building at point-blank range suffice instead of a mortar shell?

No, it would not

Because DU (BTW- didn't Russians stick to Tungsten?) will not explode with tons of shrapnel flying around, no fireballs, shockwaves or any of the eye candy found in the mediavp's....

Unless you really want to drill a 0.5 meter hole through the whole house, barn and half way through the next house that is. I'd personally use plunging fire through the roof and watch the blast throw our friend 20 yards outside of the building he's camping in.

And why sacrifice a tank and the information you have tanks in houses for a fifty?

When they find that out, you can kiss the towns' collective @$$es goodbye, because there are dumb@$$es in command of the US force, who will go brutal when outsmarted.

[Polpolion]

I guess they just don't expect our guys to be that far south. And I will say hello to the .50 cal gun for you, but would a 125mm depleted uranium round fired from a T-72 inside a building at point-blank range suffice instead of a mortar shell?

No, it would not

Because DU (BTW- didn't Russians stick to Tungsten?) will not explode with tons of shrapnel flying around, no fireballs, shockwaves or any of the eye candy found in the mediavp's....

Unless you really want to drill a 0.5 meter hole through the whole house, barn and half way through the next house that is. I'd personally use plunging fire through the roof and watch the blast throw our friend 20 yards outside of the building he's camping in.

And why sacrifice a tank and the information you have tanks in houses for a fifty?

When they find that out, you can kiss the towns' collective @$$es goodbye, because there are dumb@$$es in command of the US force, who will go brutal when outsmarted.

Well, part of the reason that I'd trade that info is because that .50 is mounted on a stryker 105mm MGS that has the American's XO in it. And because next combat bound, all hell is going to break loose and all the guys in buildings will start shooting anyway. And they won't bomb the town because their rules of engagement prohibits it.

[Tyrian]

Here's an idea for deploying the suicide donkeys.  Are there any unoccupied towns on the map?  If so, you could leave a couple of donkeys in a town the US is heading towards, and set them off as the forces set in.  However it would probably cause the US forces to search the towns looking for your guys then.  Although if you were to go for a direct fire scenario, put the donkeys inside houses in a town that you occupy, but not in the same houses as your guys.  Send them charging out, set them off, and then in the chaos, open up with your AK squads and missile units.  If things go badly and you're forced to fight to the last man, once you "lose" in the town, open up with any nearby mortars.

[BengalTiger]

Well... I was workin with limited info

An APDS will work fine against a Stryker (hell, it's an IFV, not an M1A2...). A lot better than mortars, against which the Stryker is pretty much protected.

And don't forget what the Russians think about rules of engagement. And don't forget that the rules will change as soon as there's shooting from the houses.
I give that T-72 some 30 seconds of life unless they begin to panic.

BTW- perhaps the rules don't allow them to enter any building without a search warrant...?

[NGTM-1R]

This reminds me rather a great deal of a WinSP:MBT scenario I saw once...even the suicide donkeys. It's a good scenario, but a poor reflection of reality, because in practice the US Army would bring the whole thing down on your heads with artillery. Protecting the artillery observer while he calls down unimaginable amounts of firepower on their foes is more or less what the Army does, on the philosophy that it's better to expend things then people.

Crappy strategy by US, but then, I'm pretty sure they're stuck with it because there is more or less a "turn limit" imposed on them because it's a final and they feel they need to secure their objectives while they still have the time...which is a typical reaction to such things by a new player to wargames. Learning to wait and let your artillery work things over comes slow. 's not entirely fair to them to throw them into this situation with no experience, as you learn offense harder then you learn defense. If you were up against a seasoned Steel Panthers player, you'd be in a lot more trouble, as it stands, I expect you to make a decent fight of it.

[StarSlayer]

I mean, what would you do if randomly you saw an epic donkey charge? If they ignore the donkeys and keep moving, eventually the donkeys will catch up and kill them when they're fighting our main forces. If the see them then, then our main forces will kill them while they're killing the charging donkeys.

LOL at the epic donkey charge, I just have this image of a bunch of jack asses loaded down with IEDs ambling down the mountain side to something like the soundtrack of Reqium for a Dream or Last of the Mohicans

[Dilmah G]

This reminds me rather a great deal of a WinSP:MBT scenario I saw once...even the suicide donkeys. It's a good scenario, but a poor reflection of reality, because in practice the US Army would bring the whole thing down on your heads with artillery. Protecting the artillery observer while he calls down unimaginable amounts of firepower on their foes is more or less what the Army does, on the philosophy that it's better to expend things then people.

Crappy strategy by US, but then, I'm pretty sure they're stuck with it because there is more or less a "turn limit" imposed on them because it's a final and they feel they need to secure their objectives while they still have the time...which is a typical reaction to such things by a new player to wargames. Learning to wait and let your artillery work things over comes slow. 's not entirely fair to them to throw them into this situation with no experience, as you learn offense harder then you learn defense. If you were up against a seasoned Steel Panthers player, you'd be in a lot more trouble, as it stands, I expect you to make a decent fight of it.

But their ROE prevents the US from laying arty down on the town

[redsniper]

What kind of Battlemechs can the Taliban field and does the US have access to Clan technology?

[General Battuta]

What kind of Battlemechs can the Taliban field and does the US have access to Clan technology?

This.

[Polpolion]

What kind of Battlemechs can the Taliban field and does the US have access to Clan technology?

We've managed to get a pair of Ullers from the Russians, but I don't think the Terran forces are expecting that, so their single medium lance is held in reserve.


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[redsniper]

That made my day.

[Herra Tohtori]

What did you think happened to that giant statue of Buddha that the Talibani supposedly demolished?

Suicide donkeys remind me of Incendiary Pigs... Damn, now I want battle mechas on Rome:Total War.