[BloodEagle]

If yo want to get rid of the Lobour party. You can not vote for them.

The power of the vote?

 

[Flipside]

As was said before, the problem is with the options, oh and with the fact we are still waiting on an election in order to vote

[karajorma]

That just lets in the Conservatives who are even more right wing.

[Flipside]

We seem to have a choice of Slightly Conservative, Quite Conservative and Very Conservative, and, worst of all, I'm not too certain which is which.

[karajorma]

Yep. Until the rail disasters made the entire public turn on Network Rail, Labour had actually been thinking about privatising air traffic control. A move so idiotic no other country had ever been stupid enough to do it.

[Flipside]

Air prices would go up more often than planes did....

[IPAndrews]

I'm fairly sure at this point Labour are the most right wing party in our political system. The liberals are probably the most left wing but they don't count because they're about as effective as a chocolate fire guard. Which leaves our left wing part of choice as... the tories. Who I will sadly probably vote for at the next election. After which I will probably shower for an hour without feeling clean, and then feel deep cripping shame for four to five years.

[Roanoke]

"Don't vote, it only encourages them" - Billy Connolly

Nothing will change. Councils will do absurd things, money will be wasted, kiddies will die in care, lessons will be learned etc

[perihelion]

More like "lessons won't be learned" if history is any indicator.

[IceFire]

I'm fairly sure at this point Labour are the most right wing party in our political system. The liberals are probably the most left wing but they don't count because they're about as effective as a chocolate fire guard. Which leaves our left wing part of choice as... the tories. Who I will sadly probably vote for at the next election. After which I will probably shower for an hour without feeling clean, and then feel deep cripping shame for four to five years.

Its weird that the UK's Torries are on the political "left" and Labour, which if I understand correctly is supposed to come from the workers/unionized labour roots should be the one on the left.  Things seem truly screwed up in UK politics then...

At least the Canadian parties have the good sense to stay on their own side of the fence....

[karajorma]

 Labour were on the left until Tony Blair came along. He pulled them so far to the right as to make the practically indistinguishable from the Tory party while changing the name to New Labour.

Many people spotted that New Labour = old conservative but still voted for them anyway cause by that point if Monster Raving Loony had been the only opposition they'd still have won. People were really sick of the Tories by then.

[peterv]

Labour were on the left until Tony Blair came along. He pulled them so far to the right as to make the practically indistinguishable from the Tory party while changing the name to New Labour.

Many people spotted that New Labour = old conservative but still voted for them anyway cause by that point if Monster Raving Loony had been the only opposition they'd still have won. People were really sick of the Tories by then.

The same thing happened to almost all European left parties.

[terran_emperor]

I say we get everyone in Britain to vote for a single party

The Official Monster-Raving Looney Party.

My reasoning (which is largely improvised) is as follows
1) both the Tory and the Labour parties have managed to completly f**k-up of running the country
2) Lib-Dems, BNP and Green Parties all have no chance of getting elected.

-From this we can see that no serious (or not so serious) party will ever do a decent job running the country.

Therefore by applying what I call "Inverse Stupidity Law", we can see that a joke party will actually do a decent job in running the country. THEREFORE, The Official Monster-Raving Looney Party will make run this country correctly.

The Inverse SLaw finds it's basis in "Occam's Razor", which basically states "The simpler the answer, the more likely it is to be the correct one". It is also based on the statement "There are no stupid questions. Only stupid Answers."

The Inverse Stupidity Law basically states that "The more Stupid the answer,the more likely it is to be the correct one".

Now by applying this to politics, we can see, via their manifesto, that a Joke party like The Official Monster-Raving Looney Party is the stupidest answer. and Therefore it is the correct answer to this countries governmental problems.
 

[Rand al Thor]

Just a point about the economic state of affairs in Britain particularily.

While I'm no great fan of New Labour (I'm Irish, so nearby but a world removed. We've got our own Labour party but it's effectively in the Lib Dems position with a couple of other oppostion parties) the real roots of Britains economic landslide go back to the UKs very own Hitler, Maggie Thatcher. She's the one who destroyed any and all remaining home grown manufacturing, unionised or heavy industry based businesses in Britain in exchange for creating an economy built solely on financial trading. I mean you can talk all you want about Wall Street but London up until last year was the biggest financial capital in the world (based on numbers of transactions I think).

Now all that's going down the tube and with it one of Britains only tradable resources so I can understand why Brown is desperately trying to throw everything at the problem to try and stabilise it.

Jim Rogers has been leading this get out of Sterling charge, and while that's certainly the type of talk that could actually effect its own prediction, it seemed to be happening regardless.

This is a link to our national radio morning talkshow. There's a piece about it right at the end, starting 42.50 (so unfortunately it's 50minutes downloaded to hear just 5, but it lays out the situation pretty well).

http://www.rte.ie/podcasts/2009/pc/pod-v-220109-29m15s-morningireland.mp3

If not just do a search for Jim Rogers and Sterling and you get some scary stuff. This is one;

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21810.htm

[Wobble73]

"It doesn't matter which party you vote for! The Government always gets in!" - Anon

[Roanoke]

"the UKs very own Hitler" slight overexaggeration, yes ?

[Mars]

You know, the US is down to one viable party at the moment

[Mongoose]

You know, the US is down to one viable party at the moment

Um...no?

[Flipside]

I'm trying to figure out the point where the Republicans got labelled the 'God Party', I would have thought that a Republican party truly dedicated to 'small Government' would dislike the idea of a theological government for the simple fact that, as the Middle East proves, there's no such thing as a small theistic Government, they will interfere with every aspect of life.

[noodlezombie]

All I know about British politics is that the Parliament stuff on CSPAN is like the best thing I've ever seen.