[Turnsky]

yes please!

[Shrike]

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Yep. Love that movie. Giger does it again!

What, the Sulaco?  It was designed by Syd Mead.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by PSYCHO
This thread is dead some one own it Fast!!!!!!

You think this is a dead thread?! No way.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Shrike
What, the Sulaco?  It was designed by Syd Mead.

yeah, as I said somwehere above in this thread, Giger has nothing to do with Aliens.

[Setekh]

Giger... Giger. What did he do?

[Nico]

Originally posted by Setekh
Giger... Giger. What did he do?

he designed the original alien and the weird derelict on LV426.
He also did the designs for Species. He also worked on a few old games, and, I suppose, some other movies I don't know about.
Hey, he got an oscar for Alien
He was really disapointed not being asked to help for Aliens, and he had only little part in Alien3.
I have an awesome book from him about the making of Alien ( Giger's Alien is the name of the book ), you can see the evolution of all the "versions" of the alien, and original ideas from before he was hired (nfor exemple the alien was meant to be a kind of space dinosaur , and if they have had more money, the aliens would be translucid, you could have seen guts and acid running in the veins )
Also, you have clear shots of the alien, for exemple, you can see its eyes ( same place as hours actually, behind a transparent cranium , looks freaky when you notice that -yup, predator 2 was all wrong - )

[Setekh]

Originally posted by venom2506
he designed the original alien and the weird derelict on LV426.
He also did the designs for Species. He also worked on a few old games, and, I suppose, some other movies I don't know about.
Hey, he got an oscar for Alien
He was really disapointed not being asked to help for Aliens, and he had only little part in Alien3.
I have an awesome book from him about the making of Alien ( Giger's Alien is the name of the book ), you can see the evolution of all the "versions" of the alien, and original ideas from before he was hired (nfor exemple the alien was meant to be a kind of space dinosaur , and if they have had more money, the aliens would be translucid, you could have seen guts and acid running in the veins )
Also, you have clear shots of the alien, for exemple, you can see its eyes ( same place as hours actually, behind a transparent cranium , looks freaky when you notice that -yup, predator 2 was all wrong - )

I gotta catch up with all this Alien and Pred stuff... it's just another entire universe I know absolutely nothing about.

[Nico]

bah, actually, alien and predator universes have nothing to do with each other. There's just that little pun with the alien skull in predator2, I supposed it's the thing that triggered the whole AvP stuff ( first game on jaguar, ouch )

[mikhael]

Originally posted by venom2506
bah, actually, alien and predator universes have nothing to do with each other. There's just that little pun with the alien skull in predator2, I supposed it's the thing that triggered the whole AvP stuff ( first game on jaguar, ouch )

Nope. AvP was inspired by the Dark Horse comics Aliens vs Predator comics. I have the entire first series (autographed by the artists even!). Its not too bad. According to DarkHorse's version of the shared universe, Predators 'seed' xenomorphs on planets and then hunt them. This is the origin of the xenomorph cranium in Predator 2.

[Nico]

Originally posted by mikhael


Nope. AvP was inspired by the Dark Horse comics Aliens vs Predator comics. I have the entire first series (autographed by the artists even!). Its not too bad. According to DarkHorse's version of the shared universe, Predators 'seed' xenomorphs on planets and then hunt them. This is the origin of the xenomorph cranium in Predator 2.

mmh, that's kindda not working with the Alien plot, in Alien, the xenomorphs were carried by another alien species, right, but they had nothing to do with predators
Bah, dark Horses comics about aliens are ****ed up anywa, i've seen them using aliens against batman and even james bond

[mikhael]

Originally posted by venom2506


mmh, that's kindda not working with the Alien plot, in Alien, the xenomorphs were carried by another alien species, right, but they had nothing to do with predators
Bah, dark Horses comics about aliens are ****ed up anywa, i've seen them using aliens against batman and even james bond

What? You want them to work Predators into the Alien storyline? People just wanted something that showed one really cool alien species fight another really cool alien species. Since Dark Horse had the rights to both properties (Alien and Predator), they made AvP.

It doesn't have anything to do with either the Alien universe of the first Predator movie.

[Nico]

well, that's kindda sad actually, they could have worked something better, no?
I think that's what they did in the games at least (I think, I've never played them).
bah, anyway, in predator2, the skull isn't an alien one!!!! They messed it up, it should have the front of the skull just like a human skull ( and actually that's what they used to make the costume of the first movie, and really it looks both great and scary when you can see it right - only at the end of the movie, when the alien is behind Ripley in her space suit, just as she turns back and see it a few inches behind her, you can see the alien's face quite clear, and even his two, perfect black eyes - )

[Turnsky]

you think that's convulted?

try this:

[mikhael]

That's AWESOME! I put my money on the predator. He's the only one with a fully formed brain of his own.

[Turnsky]

THAT, and the fact that they have their very own cloaking devices

[Nico]

and what exactly can an alien do against a terminator apart from suiciding itself over it to turn it into liquid metal (the kind that doesn't run after Sarah Conor, that is... )

[mikhael]

Originally posted by venom2506
and what exactly can an alien do against a terminator apart from suiciding itself over it to turn it into liquid metal (the kind that doesn't run after Sarah Conor, that is... )

Depends on the xenomorph in question. If you read the comics, they come in almost infinite variety. Heck, in Alien3 you see that the the Xenomorphs take on some of the characteristics of the thigns in which they gestate. Imagine what a predator gestated Alien could do. Or one that gestated in a polar bear.

Or--and this one WAS done, IIRC--one that gestated in Superman.

[Nico]

well, they do take some lines of the host, but that dosn't improve their aptitude it seems: the Alien3 alien won't run faster than any other alien for exemple, it will just move differently.
An alien hosted by superman wouldn't fly or have eyes that can fire lasers i'm afraid
Oh, and what would an alien gain from being hosted by the predator? remove all the weapons from the predator, the alien is stronger, faster, more stealth and agile the predator only have superior brains, and, as you can see from aliens hosted by humans, this isn't carried over to the alien itself

[mikhael]

Originally posted by venom2506
well, they do take some lines of the host, but that dosn't improve their aptitude it seems: the Alien3 alien won't run faster than any other alien for exemple, it will just move differently.
An alien hosted by superman wouldn't fly or have eyes that can fire lasers i'm afraid

If I remember correctly, the alien that gestated in Superman ended up being mostly invulnerable, super-strong and able to put the beatdown on Superman. Gotta love comic books.

[Sheepy]

Originally posted by venom2506
well, they do take some lines of the host, but that dosn't improve their aptitude it seems: the Alien3 alien won't run faster than any other alien for exemple, it will just move differently.
An alien hosted by superman wouldn't fly or have eyes that can fire lasers i'm afraid
Oh, and what would an alien gain from being hosted by the predator? remove all the weapons from the predator, the alien is stronger, faster, more stealth and agile the predator only have superior brains, and, as you can see from aliens hosted by humans, this isn't carried over to the alien itself

I dont know why but i found that really funny