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Offline Polpolion

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People spend so much time watching TV that it becomes their main source of infomation on everything.

Conversely, People spend so little time watching TV that they forget about it completely. :rolleyes:

Without any sort of statistic, that statement is pretty meaningless. For exactly how many people is the TV the main source of info on everything?

 

Offline iamzack

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Hyperbole. I've just heard way too many people say "well, I saw it on ___"
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He's saying a lot of things here. I don't have my glasses.
Might want to put them on :)
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Offline Polpolion

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Hyperbole. I've just heard way too many people say "well, I saw it on ___"

Odd. I haven't.

 

Offline iamzack

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They're all the way upstairs. *whines* *eats more cheetos*


Hyperbole. I've just heard way too many people say "well, I saw it on ___"
Odd. I haven't.

Well then maybe everyone in my classes are retarded.
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Offline Kosh

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They're all the way upstairs. *whines* *eats more cheetos*


Hyperbole. I've just heard way too many people say "well, I saw it on ___"
Odd. I haven't.

Well then maybe everyone in my classes are retarded.


You're in high school, that is quite typical.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline iamzack

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But my classes are almost all AP. -.-
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Offline Kosh

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But my classes are almost all AP. -.-


Then say bye bye to the future of the us
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline General Battuta

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But my classes are almost all AP. -.-


Then say bye bye to the future of the us

Right, because clearly we have a representative sample here.

 

Offline Turambar

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But my classes are almost all AP. -.-


Then say bye bye to the future of the us

Right, because clearly we have a representative sample here.

I hate to be a pessimist, but Enloe used to be one of the top schools in North Carolina (went there myself, before everything started getting crappy)
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Offline Kosh

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But my classes are almost all AP. -.-


My personal experiences were not much different.

Then say bye bye to the future of the us

Right, because clearly we have a representative sample here.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline iamzack

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But my classes are almost all AP. -.-


Then say bye bye to the future of the us

Right, because clearly we have a representative sample here.

Uhm. Well, it is still the top high school in the state... So it's not a representative sample of my age group as a whole. It's a representative sample of the *best and brightest* of my age group.

@Turambar: Academically, we're still on top of any public high school in NC. It's just not as much fun to be a student as it was 32095709683083 years ago when you went here. :P
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Offline BloodEagle

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*snip*

Uhm. Well, it is still the top high school in the state... So it's not a representative sample of my age group as a whole. It's a representative sample of the *best and brightest* of my age group.

@Turambar: Academically, we're still on top of any public high school in NC. It's just not as much fun to be a student as it was 32095709683083 years ago when you went here. :P

Academic standards (somewhat disregarding mathematics and its respective fields) have been plummeting in both wests for as long as I can remember. So what's considered 'AP' nowadays would most likely be considered 'CP' or 'BM' thirty years ago or so.

Just sayin'.

 

Offline iamzack

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AP is still the highest level you can take because AP classes are college classes.

So whether or not AP is less 'AP' than it used to be, that's still going to be your "top" students.
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Offline Janos

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Uhm. Well, it is still the top high school in the state... So it's not a representative sample of my age group as a whole. It's a representative sample of the *best and brightest* of my age group.

No. It is not.
Actually let's just ask: how many people in your class can you objectively state as using TV as their primary source of information? And what kind of TV?

If you can get representative sample out of anecdotal evidence in one class you have broken statistics.

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@Turambar: Academically, we're still on top of any public high school in NC. It's just not as much fun to be a student as it was 32095709683083 years ago when you went here. :P

lol wtf

 

Offline General Battuta

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AP is still the highest level you can take because AP classes are college classes.

So whether or not AP is less 'AP' than it used to be, that's still going to be your "top" students.

AP classes aren't college classes, believe me. They're some odd tangential development.

 

Offline CP5670

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They are equivalent to intro level college classes and the credits will transfer at most schools. Of course, that isn't saying much.

On this topic, check out this news. This class actually sounds like a lot more fun. :D

 

Offline Polpolion

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Evidently, schools can smoosh their students through the toughest classes that they offer, they can offer them in a way that allows most of them to pass, yet people still don't learn too much.

 

Offline Angelus

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On this topic, check out this news. This class actually sounds like a lot more fun. :D

What about a Assassins Creed course, where the students analyze the best approach to the target? :D
In the article above is a link to a article about a course where the students analyze prOn movies.  :p
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On the original topic:

Besides, if you’re trying to get a good look at culture and how it works, it’s important to look at the media people are actually consuming and not just the stuff that seems worthy to the academics.

This. Marshall McLuhan would commend you. This isn't a class for people fascinated by soap operas; it's a class for people fascinated by people fascinated by soap operas.


Shouldn't this be a part of social/ psychology/ media classes, rather then a class on it's own?
« Last Edit: January 28, 2009, 02:18:17 pm by Angelus »

 

Offline Rian

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Shouldn't this be a part of social/ psychology/ media classes, rather then a class on it's own?

Not necessarily. In-depth study of a single, specific topic is the goal of most academic research, and at high levels a lot of classes are highly specialized.