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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
PVD Hope :nervous:
That one made me all sad. :(

It really is all about the setup of the Galatea's destruction, I think.  It's the first ship that the player is stationed on in the FS universe, and its CO is the main voice of the game's storyline.  We have to fly escort for it on multiple occasions, which gives one a sense of personal investment in it.  Even in the mission Doomsday itself, it's fairly easy to keep the Galatea at a very high hull percentage, which gives the false hope that it's just a matter of jumping in a repair crew and getting the old girl out of there.  And then, in the blink of an eye, the Lucifer puts an end to those hopes with horrifying finality.  To compound it all, the Galatea's loss is directly followed by the destruction of Vasuda Prime, which is a real double-whammy in Exodus's command briefing.

The Psamtik doesn't really have any of that going for it.  The player is stationed on it for a shorter amount of time, and the fact that all of its crew speaks in a translator monotone makes it hard to form any sort of personal attachment toward them.  You never really have to haul its ass out of the fire, either.  Even its actual death is a random and seemingly arbitrary event.  I do think I would have felt similar to the Galatea if the Aquitaine had been destroyed, if for no other reason than the fact that Admiral Loggia--er, Petrarch is freakin' awesome.  The Aquitaine did wind up going through the wringer once or twice, which I think were some of the more dramatic moments in the FS2 campaign.

 

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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
I was young when I first played FS2, but I remember having a very visceral reaction to the Psamtik's destruction. Part of it might have been the plaintive, shattered tone Command put into a few very simple, functional lines.

I liked that ship a lot.

 

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I also think that the Debriefing in Doomsday attributed to the feeling of loss. The way that you just get shipped off to the Bastion just like that, doesn't help. I think that even a funeral mission would have been cool, where you fly a solemn memorial flight for the Galatea. I think that even if it was a short, 5 minute mission, it would have made the feeling of attachment stronger.
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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
The Galatea was indeed the most painful destroyer death in the games.

But i like the Hatshepsut Design and so the death of the GVD Psamtik was a blow, too. But i think the major difference between the Galatea and Psamtik was, that you were surprised by the Lucifer in FS1. In FS2 you feel, that something bigger will happen, because the Psamtik jumps in a few kilometers away from Knossos 2. So Sathanas 2 wasn't THE big surprise... and furthermore it felt like a Deja Vu because "The great Hunt", when the Ravana jumps in, was an identical situation. Big enemy ship shows up and boom...
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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
When you say GTD Ignatius, Goober, surely you're referring to ItDoH?

I'll miss that ship, yeah. :(
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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
Surely you mean Derelict, not ItDoH?

 

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Hey you Gui's stop that ! You got me all depressed and stuff reading this thread ! *Alpha feels particularly depressed about Orion's going kaboom *

Well i must say whenever i saw the jewel of the Terran's the mighty Orion get blown up i feel sad. Somehow that is just wrong ! Even more so when i have to blow it up .

As for the Aquitaine well i was like " yeah you can blow up the Aquitaine when i become a multibilionare and marry Jessica Alba " Actually i said that once my brother was like "WTF is wrong with you ?? "

I mean i run around all over the place keeping its big arse safe from bombers and bombs and such and you wanna take it out now ?? No way ! I'm not allowing that !

Also When the Psamtik went down for split second i was like Why??

The Galatea well don't even get me started on that one....! Now that must be like when you are getting helpless. and i felt so empowered too !

Also the Collie . When i saw that ship go down i was like "No way...you're kidding me right ?? The Big C went down??? Then  why the hell did i spent the last 10 minutes blowing holes in the shivan forces??"

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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
Surely you mean Derelict, not ItDoH?

Maybe. Probably. :nervous:
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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
Surely you mean Derelict, not ItDoH?
Derelict.  It's a joke, see, cause everyone tries to say Derelict is canon.

 

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Well derelict is one of the best that came out ! Its not canon but it might as well be ! :P I loved it 
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No offence i love all campaigns. Its just some of them have that extra something that another might not have. For example one might have a great story but not that much raw battle while the other may have massive battles but a shorter less in depth story. that is all i was attempting to say ! :D

Oh yeah for some reason most campaign focus on the GTVA warships getting blown to pieces.

Why not more shivan destroyers go up in smoke ??
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No offence i love all campaigns. Its just some of them have that extra something that another might not have. For example one might have a great story but not that much raw battle while the other may have massive battles but a shorter less in depth story. that is all i was attempting to say ! :D

Oh yeah for some reason most campaign focus on the GTVA warships getting blown to pieces.

Why not more shivan destroyers go up in smoke ??

They're the great destroyers, not the great destroyed.

 

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Well even so i would still like to see more shivan cap ship blow up as opposed to GTVA ones.

Perhaps in a massive battle with some 10 or 15 destroyers and a couple doze corvettes and such ! Now that would be awesome ....
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I can smell my CPU overheating now.

As for the Psamtiks destruction, I didn't really get all that moved. As said before, the fact that it jumped in 9 or so clicks away next to a subspace portal... Kinda writes itself.

 

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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
PVD Hope :nervous:
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I think Goober was talking about how the PVD Hope...
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Oye! Take your campaign skirmishes to the Sync Vs. Transcend thread. Just walk down, turn a corner and hang left.
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