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Offline eliex

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Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
As it happens, in all canon campaigns, FS1 and FS2 Main Campaigns and ST, there is always a destroyer that gets killed - Galatea, Krios and the Psamtik. I quite curious to know why only the Galatea is the only destroyer out of the three is the most famous and well-mourned ship.

Personally, I don't really care about all three but I'd like your opinions.  :)

 

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Because:

a) FS1 Main was the best campaign evar.

b) ST sucked.

c) Everyone here is a racist f4g and hates Vasudans, and hence actually applauded the Sathanas 2 when it killed the Psamtik,

 

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I cheer whenever a friendly destroyer dies and I don't take the blame for it.
It makes things seem less one-sided.
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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
the Gala was the ship where the player was staying in... the Aquitaine does not get destroyed, this could be applied to the Psamtik but it's not the actual destroyer of the player so...

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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
The FS1 campaign really went out of its way to attach the player to the Galatea. It's the player's first introduction to the huge FreeSpace destroyers, and honestly had the most memorable death of all the destroyers.

 

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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
Indeed...the Psamtik I never felt as attached to as I did the Galatea.  You never have to defend the Psamtik like you do with the Galatea several times.  When the Psamtik went down I did go "oh crap" but then it was over and we got the heck back to the Aquitane.  I was on pins and needles that we wouldn't loose the Aquitane as well.
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Well, basically, in FS2 the Psamtik is just another destroyer, and you have the Colossus to counter the Sathanas.  And yes, it is Vasudan, and no-one gives a crap about Vasudans dying.  Its like caring when random Vulcans die in a Star Trek episode.

In FS1, you also have no counter to the Lucifer, so even a single destroyer getting blown up is a big deal because you can't just build another one, not with the Lucifer razing entire worlds from orbit.  Also, you were onboard the Galatea from the minute you started the campaign, so it was "home" to Alpha 1.  And having your home blown up by a pair of Shivan Super Lasers is a big deal.
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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
I think people don't care about the Psamtik because, let's face it, the player had seen a lot of big things get blown up before in FS2, and they had much more memorable deaths.

 

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Well, the Psamtik's death came so quick that even their Comms couldn't catch up. We would be grateful because their death was quick.

The Galatea's death was much slower, and the Krios came as a shock because it was destroyed by its own authority.

The Bastion had the most pitiful death. TENMINUTESESCORTINGITTOAGODDAMNNODETOSEEITBLOWUPBECAUSEOFSOMEF RAKKINGSHIVANJUGGERNAUT!
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Read the FS1 description of the Orion. I quote..

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The Orion is the capital ship of the GTA. Measuring a frightening 2.1 kilometers in length, the cost to build one of these far outweighs the cost of paying the crew of this ship for 3 years. There is no more important symbol of Terran Pride than a ship like the Galatea or the Intrepid cruising past a colonized planet, patrolling the system and ensuring safety. In the course of the 14 year war, very few of these have ever been lost, making the destruction of an Orion a truly horrible defeat.

Now, i see that as the GTD Galatea being a renown destroyer. One of the ships you can call off the top of your head. Like if you ask someone who knows about United States Navy, they might recall the Iowa, or the Enterprise, ect. So when you loose a ship like that, the fleet and the rest of the GTA is gonna mourn it. As for the Psamtic, well, what was she famous for? Blowing up a damaged corvette?

 

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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns

The Bastion had the most pitiful death.

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Good ol' Bastion. I don't remember going "Oh crap" when the Galatea was taken down. Psamtik...eh...But I agree with Kalnaren.

The FS1 campaign really went out of its way to attach the player to the Galatea. It's the player's first introduction to the huge FreeSpace destroyers, and honestly had the most memorable death of all the destroyers.
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I think people don't care about the Psamtik because, let's face it, the player had seen a lot of big things get blown up before in FS2, and they had much more memorable deaths.

True. The GTD Repulse's destruction was, IMO, the most memorable death in FS2 because the player's contribute was significant. It also featured a very cool dialogue.

The Colossus' destruction was memorable, but...IMO it lacked immersion. Why? a) The warship was too far away when the Sathanas jumped in, b) the mission didn't focus on the Colossus and on its battle to hold the Shivans and c) the player's only influence was to destroy ships to turn into true the arrival cue of the Beast first and Sathanas 17 then.

Had the mission been centered on the Colossus and had the Colossus been very close to the main battle area "Their Finest Hour" would have easily owned any other friendly-capship death mission...that's why, ATM, the Galatea and the Repulse are a bit more memorable under most points of view. Also, the player was never based on the Colossus and we don't even know the CO's name, so the way to experience that event turned out to be a bit worse than expected.
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True. The GTD Repulse's destruction was, IMO, the most memorable death in FS2 because the player's contribute was significant. It also featured a very cool dialogue.

The Colossus' destruction was memorable, but...IMO it lacked immersion. Why? a) The warship was too far away when the Sathanas jumped in, b) the mission didn't focus on the Colossus and on its battle to hold the Shivans and c) the player's only influence was to destroy ships to turn into true the arrival cue of the Beast first and Sathanas 17 then.

Had the mission been centered on the Colossus and had the Colossus been very close to the main battle area "Their Finest Hour" would have easily owned any other friendly-capship death mission...that's why, ATM, the Galatea and the Repulse are a bit more memorable under most points of view. Also, the player was never based on the Colossus and we don't even know the CO's name, so the way to experience that event turned out to be a bit worse than expected.

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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
Anything that involves the player protecting it will make its loss much more painful to bear.

Galatea died, but Alpha 1 didn't do much.

Psamtik died, but Alpha 1 was too far away to intervene.

Repulse's death is memorable because 1) Alpha 1 chose to try and disable it; and/or 2) it was the only ship that tried to do a kamikaze on the Colossus.

Bastion must die...but only after Alpha 1 protects it for ten minutes and thirty seconds.
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Re: Major Destroyer Deaths in Campaigns
It's not a matter of what the player can do but rather of what the player experiences and feels like he's capable of doing.

No doubt the player had no chance to protect the Galatea from the Lucifer but what he did before the arrival of the superdestroyer led the player to think that he could make it. Hunting down bombers and torpedoes was possible, stopping the Lucifer wasn't.
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Heh, I played intercept in a Medusa with three banks of Tsunamis for eight minutes or so before the Lucifer came. Damn that was fun. I did better than in other missions when I actually flew a Valkyrie with interceptor missiles.
I managed the keep the Galatea pretty healthy too, and it took a few SSLbeam hits to kill.
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PVD Hope :nervous:

 

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PVD Hope :nervous:
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Fine.

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