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Offline Snail

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The Neo-Terran Front - A Pawn of Darker Forces
With all this Bosch stuff going around I figured I'd throw in my own thing.


The Plan

First off really, Bosch was manipulated. He didn't know he was being controlled by the GTVA. Some higher-ups in GTVA Command wanted to get their hands on ETAK and Bosch's research into Ancient subspace technology. Because of bureaucracy and the implications of resurrecting the GTI's defunct research, it wasn't feasible for the GTVA to do this research themselves. The need to keep the entire thing secret as well as the amount of resources involved to do so would just slime the GTVA and make them very unpopular with the general populace.

Whether or not the GTVA actually masterminded the entire NTF rebellion is really beside the point. What they did do however, is allow Bosch's rebellion to continue long enough for his research to bear fruit. To keep an eye on him and to check his progress, they also planted a mole or two in his command crew (someone like Communications officer Lieutenant Rusk). The plan was to allow Bosch to get his research done, then nab the ETAK device.

Ancient Research

They also allowed NTF forces to stay in former Ancient systems to allow more data on the Knossos and other Ancient technology to be gathered. Thus how the campaigns in Deneb, Alpha Centauri and other contested Vasudan systems were stalled so that the NTF could remain in the system and continue the research. This is also why Alpha wing was given bogus coordinates and the blockade was diverted. To allow the Iceni (and the incomplete ETAK device) to escape. (Note also that the cargo containers held by the escaping freighters are friendly. Probably a :v: glitch. But, there's always the possibility they wanted those containers to survive...)

Epsilon Pegasi

Epsilon Pegasi had little value as a research site. There were no Ancient remains and nothing much really of interest to Bosch in terms of Ancient research. Thus, when Admiral Koth launched his campaign in the system, the GTVA came down hard. Though they actually did support Bosch's research into the ETAK device, they did not support his military campaign when it didn't support their own goals:  Epsilon Pegasi wasn't needed for research, the NTF's campaign in the system there was purely strategic. Thus, the higher-ups allowed the deployment of the Colossus to wipe them out completely.

Note on the Colossus

Another thing to think about is the deployment of the Colossus. It's highly unlikely that the Colossus was completed just in time for the Epsilon Pegasi counterstrike. The GTVA were simply holding back its deployment until the right time came. Hence why its very existence was classified.

Ending the Ruse

The GTVA probably decided at this point that Bosch had enough research to complete his ETAK project and that the bloody ruse should end now. It was time to clean up the rebellion and take the ETAK project, possibly by force. The Colossus and the 13th Vasudan Battlegroup plunged right into the heart of NTF space. First Polaris, then Sirius. Regulus was the last Bastion of hope for the NTF.

Perhaps the GTVA thought that the NTF would stay in Regulus for their climatic last stand in the face of annihilation. But either way, they had to ensure the Iceni's survival for long enough so that they could retrieve the ETAK data unharmed. So, when Bosch alarmingly staged his giant charge to Gamma Drax, that they had to make special preparations. In the "King's Gambit", you never see the Iceni. After the destruction of the NTCv Perseverance, you are told to depart. The Hedetet also departs. Does it ever occur to you that if the Iceni never arrived before your mission or during your mission, he must have arrived after the mission? When the blockade had already jumped out of the area? Yeah. The GTVA did it so that the Iceni would have an easy time getting into Gamma Drax. Obviously, they also decided not to send Alpha to the Iceni's rallying point, and also shut down the Colossus' beam cannons in "Endgame".

Finding Bosch and ETAK

Of course that's not the end. Bosch was in the nebula, and bloody hard to find. One of three objectives of this renewed nebular campaign was now to find uncharted Shivan Jump Nodes, destroy all Shivan targets, and to get ETAk -- Err, I mean, capture Bosch. Yes. Capture Bosch. Of course, the GTVA did not allow the Iceni to get killered. Notably in "Speaking In Tongues" (Rephaim and Iceni dialogue).

When they finally did find Bosch of course he had already escaped with ETAK. Ferk. Nawht gewd. Though, in "Return to Babel," the GTVA did get at least the schematics of Bosch's device. Of course that wasn't enough either. They wanted the device itself. But of course things got ****ed up in "Straight, No Chaser" when the second Sath arrived. Bosch had truly escaped. Later attempts to find him ("Into the Lion's Den") were, of course, futile.

Results

So in the end, GTVA command has only the schematics of ETAK, for all their trouble over 18 months, and a bloody nose for letting the Trinity activate the Knossos and letting the Shivans right in. Whoever masterminded the ETAK/NTF plot probably is probably ****ing pissed off now.

Unless the schematics were enough to rebuild the ETAK device. If so, then it was all worth it.






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Re: The Neo-Terran Front - A Pawn of Darker Forces
To allow the Iceni (and the incomplete ETAK device) to escape. (Note also that the cargo containers held by the escaping freighters are friendly. Probably a :v: glitch. But, there's always the possibility they wanted those containers to survive...)

There are two alternate conditions in that mission:

1) Cargo destroyed before the elimination of the few Loki wings sortied as reinforcements;

2) Cargo destroyed after(?) the elimination of those Lokis or, at least, still present when the Lokis are destroyed;


In any case, Command wasn't that bothered about those eveniences. If they really wanted those containers to survive then they should have ordered all wings to ignore them.
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Re: The Neo-Terran Front - A Pawn of Darker Forces
There are two alternate conditions in that mission:

1) Cargo destroyed before the elimination of the few Loki wings sortied as reinforcements;

2) Cargo destroyed after(?) the elimination of those Lokis or, at least, still present when the Lokis are destroyed;


In any case, Command wasn't that bothered about those eveniences. If they really wanted those containers to survive then they should have ordered all wings to ignore them.

Command fell asleep at that point and didn't notice Alpha was attacking the containers..

 

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Re: The Neo-Terran Front - A Pawn of Darker Forces
Command fell asleep at that point and didn't notice Alpha was attacking the containers..

Better explanation please? :rolleyes: :doubt:
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That's actually the most plausible explanation I've heard about Bosch.

 

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Oh gosh! Not another conspiracy theory!

Err... Anyway, while it does make sense, why can't you just take Bosch for another rebel leader? And the NTF as just another rebelion? I understand and agree that the GTVA wanted ETAK and "saved" the Iceni a couple of times, but I doubt that the GTVA didn't do everything they could to stop the NTF. And capturing Bosch after he got into the nebula might have been to put him to trials and to show the future generations that the GTVA is not to be messed with :P

Of course, your theory, Snail, is also entirely possible.

 

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Better explanation please? :rolleyes: :doubt:
Why so srs?

Anyway, I did acknowledge it was probably a :v: glitch, I just wanted to throw something in there as a side possibility.

if u dont liek it u don need to read it lol

Err... Anyway, while it does make sense, why can't you just take Bosch for another rebel leader? And the NTF as just another rebelion? I understand and agree that the GTVA wanted ETAK and "saved" the Iceni a couple of times, but I doubt that the GTVA didn't do everything they could to stop the NTF. And capturing Bosch after he got into the nebula might have been to put him to trials and to show the future generations that the GTVA is not to be messed with :P
Because there is obviously something much more to Bosch. He's not just some other rebel leader. You can tell from his monologues he's more than the two-dimensional rebel leader who hates Vasudans some people around here seem to make him out to be.

As I see it a lotta people liked Bosch as more than just another random bad guy, but as a kinda tragic villain who was trying to do good but ended up doing bad stuff. He's a guy you can see form more than one POV; he's not entirely an evil bad-guy. But there *are* people out there who are 100% evil. Like Head-CM2.

  

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Re: The Neo-Terran Front - A Pawn of Darker Forces
Anyway, I did acknowledge it was probably a :v: glitch, I just wanted to throw something in there as a side possibility.

May I know why you don't acknowledge :v: glitches in more notable aspects of plotline development? :rolleyes:

*all references to FS Retcon are purely random*


He's a guy you can see form more than one POV; he's not entirely an evil bad-guy.

He condemned the NTCv Sevrin's CO 8and his subordinates too, maybe) only because he was angry. That makes him a tyrant.

But there *are* people out there who are 100% evil. Like Head-CM2.

Racist... :doubt:
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Re: The Neo-Terran Front - A Pawn of Darker Forces
May I know why you don't acknowledge :v: glitches in more notable aspects of plotline development? :rolleyes:

*all references to FS Retcon are purely random*

I am entitled to my own opinion here. You don't need to keep saying this, because I will never agree with you. Ever. :P

He condemned the NTCv Sevrin's CO 8and his subordinates too, maybe) only because he was angry. That makes him a tyrant.
Sure he did a few 3v1l things but, you know, ends justifies the means.

Racist... :doubt:
For ****'s sake, it's not like it's because he's black. Hell, I hadn't even thought about the guy's ethnicity until you brought it up. :rolleyes:

 

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That's actually the most plausible explanation I've heard about Bosch.
Agreed. Detailed enough to explain the necessities, yet simple enough to leave room for more.

 

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But there *are* people out there who are 100% evil. Like Head-CM2.

Racist... :doubt:
I lol'd. :lol:

Anyway, there's absolutely no way that we can get the actual story behind all this is there?

 

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I am entitled to my own opinion here. You don't need to keep saying this, because I will never agree with you. Ever. :P

Then be coherent and accept the glitches when accepting them is truly needed... :doubt:

Also, I consider the fact that someone like you doesn't agree with me as a compliment... :p

(it is a compliment!)


Sure he did a few 3v1l things but, you know, ends justifies the means.

Executing the CO of the Sevrin had no end, no concrete consequences.

What's the point in losing trained and skilled officers? No one is stupid enough to do this. Even the most feared dictators were reluctant in doing this unless they wanted to play the role of the pathetic tyrants... :rolleyes:
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You can't be sure that Bosch actually executed the CO of the Sevrin.
Might have been a lie, as you know very well what happened to Snipes after that mission (and what was planned for ALPHAONE).
They were already on to them.
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Good point, but the execution was well planned...what happened to him, otherwise? They couldn't let him stay around, or someone would have seriously questioned the effectiveness of NTF propaganda...

"Hey, I thought you were dead!"

"I was about to tell you the same thing..."


Also, who said that Snipes was condemned to death? He was reassigned...the firing squad was for Alpha 1...
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Also, who said that Snipes was condemned to death? He was reassigned...the firing squad was for Alpha 1...

I always thought that Niven told Alpha 1 that Snipes was reassigned to make him feel better. Then again, he must've been reassigned because he was in the Grall.

Jack Niven is a joke in the FreeSpace universe. He gave Alpha 1 an armed ship AND a working jump drive. It's like he wanted Alpha 1 to escape.

 

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The player can't die, you know...

They wanted to let Alpha 1 help them out in taking out some GTVA assets before eliminating him. They probably were sure to take him out, I guess.
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Re: The Neo-Terran Front - A Pawn of Darker Forces

Also, I consider the fact that someone like you doesn't agree with me as a compliment... :p

(it is a compliment!)

I could say likewise, but that'd be sinking to your level. ;)

Jack Niven is a joke in the FreeSpace universe. He gave Alpha 1 an armed ship AND a working jump drive. It's like he wanted Alpha 1 to escape.
Yeah that guy really is an idiot. They should've just beheaded him there and then.

 
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What's that "If I was an evil overlord" thing, "Shooting is NOT too good for my enemies."?  I'm pretty certain there's something about just killing them instead of inventing a massively contrived scheme, a scheme that goes something like sending him to blow up a cargo depot, then having your fighters take him out after.
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When I heard 'reassigned', my head naturally went 'ok, he's dead.'
Until I realized he was on some random Argo.
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