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Offline The E

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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
Then I guess I must be doing something wrong. I don't notice any speed difference with AVG off, so I made my earlier remark. But in the end, Hellstryker is right, the best defence against most common virii is a working brain.
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
I always plug Avast.  It's quiet, it keeps the crap out, and it is good on system resources.  Only problem is the lack of a firewall, but that's what routers with NAT+SPI were built for.
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
I always try to use 2 different vendors for anti-virus and firewall.  Still occasionally run 2 other anti-spyware programs but I don't let them stay memory resident.  An occasional hijackthis scan never hurts either.  Still have the hardware firewall but I do have wireless setup on the LAN side. 
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
I just have the basic Windows firewall always on. It does help so a hacker doesn't get access to your computer, and if Windows isn't the best, it is better than nothing.

Of all the things you could possibly use...  :rolleyes:

 

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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
I dunno, MS' Firewall (at least the Vista/7 version) isn't bad, actually.
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
I just have the basic Windows firewall always on. It does help so a hacker doesn't get access to your computer, ...
sorry, but.... BWHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
I just have the basic Windows firewall always on. It does help so a hacker doesn't get access to your computer, ...
sorry, but.... BWHAHAHAHHAAAAAAA

Yeah, I LOLed too. Nobody ever gets hacked. Firewalls DO do an excellent job at blocking stuff, I admit. You know, useful stuff.

 

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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
no, you need to have some idea about what you are talking about before you talk, you have distinguished yourself as an idiot by going blahblahblah about **** you clearly have not the beginnings of a grasp for over and over again. it is rare for a newb to catch my attention in the manner you have, but time and time again I see something unimaginably stupid posted to which I say out loud 'oh my god how can someone be so dumb' and i look and time after time I see your name attached to it. I mean are you for real or are you trolling? I'm really not sure. seriously, talk less lurk more.
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
Guys, let him be...he's been around for years (he recently deleted most of his posts, thus the low postcount), and while he used to really tick me off, he's not a bad guy. Just has a unique way of expressing himself.

Let him do his thing, it's not hurting anyone.

 

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then why have I just recently started noticing him?
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
Coincidence, maybe? He's definitely been around for a while. I believe he's been posting since at least 2004.

 

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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
Y'all cheer out and go on along your happy geeky way .  . . jesus!

 

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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
Guys, let him be...he's been around for years (he recently deleted most of his posts, thus the low postcount), and while he used to really tick me off, he's not a bad guy. Just has a unique way of expressing himself.

Let him do his thing, it's not hurting anyone.

Not to mention, he's actually correct in this case.  Or partially, anyway.

Software firewalls are generally a poor security solution because they rely on proper configuration at the user end and they clog system resources.  They also operate on the very thing they're supposed to protect, which isn't necessarily ideal.  This is why a hardware firewall (e.g. a router, or basic box with something like m0n0wall installed) is a preferable solution.

However, even with a hardware firewall, it doesn't hurt to have a little backup.  The Vista firewall, when coupled with a router, is actually an excellent solution.  It's unobtrusive, yet provides a minimum level of protection by warning you when something is trying to access the internet.  So long as you're not an idiot that says yes to everything, it's a good thing to enable when you have a good router with NAT (SPI would be an added bonus) and don't want to deal with a full software firewall.

Loading a system with multiple antivirus programs, a full software firewall, plus an external router is just ridiculous overkill.  One antivirus (and not Norton or McAffee, thanks), the Windows firewall, and a good router is all you need.
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
i myself have an IPcop distro running on my oldest pc, happily doing the router job, with it running an intrusion detection system based off on snort. didnt have problems with viruses nor anything else similar since i started to use it.

comodo is still used since i do like my on-access detection of things and to prevent windozer apps from phoning back home.




all in all, its doing an extremely nice job at it, ipcop + comodo is an extremely nice solution.




also, traffic shaping anyone?
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
/* reply not directed at High Max */
/* lots of angry ranting */

Over projection much?
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
/* reply not directed at High Max */
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Over projection much?

No, I don't think so. HM certainly picked the right target....Doesn't explain (or excuse) his lapsing into high-speed rant mode...
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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
no, you need to have some idea about what you are talking about before you talk, you have distinguished yourself as an idiot by going blahblahblah about **** you clearly have not the beginnings of a grasp for over and over again. it is rare for a newb to catch my attention in the manner you have, but time and time again I see something unimaginably stupid posted to which I say out loud 'oh my god how can someone be so dumb' and i look and time after time I see your name attached to it. I mean are you for real or are you trolling? I'm really not sure. seriously, talk less lurk more.

Whatever Mr know it all. I couldn't care less about your existance. From your athiest point of view, nothing has a point. I have had enough of people as it is and I don't care about fitting in or if I'm alone if it means getting away from people who treat me bad and think they know me so well. I have an extremely angry and mean side too if I'm pushed the wrong way. For the last year and a half, I have had enough of people and their inconsiderate way of thinking. I have learned that being nice got me nowhere but pain and hurt by others and being a target for being used and these days I let no one push me around.

Insects like you should be eaten by me. I assure you, I'm quite in shape and quite capable physically and mentally and far more serious and I know how to defend myself and you should come here and I will show you my full power and potential, weakling. I can be quite hateful with the way I talk and wanting revenge (mostly using my brain letting people know the truth and the bad ones can say goodbye to their reputation and I just laugh my head off like a crazy person). I even use spoof emailers sometimes and it is funny to do that to the people I hate and make them think I hacked them when I'm really just posing as their own name and email address, or just to get their attention and read my message sooner and I tell them it is just a program. They can't block it either. You have no idea how capable I am, so don't mess with me. Some people deserve no mercy or sympathy and should be exposed. You just crossed the line calling me an idiot, you meaningless insect who is too weak to handle a life without friends and is dependent on them like a child. I don't have to explain a damn thing to ungrateful disgraces to the human race, like you. I assure you I'm better than you in most ways. Come here and let me show you all my strength and intelligence and then you can say I'm an idiot. Idiots call people they don't know "idiots" and they are the true idiots and think they know it all. Maybe you are jealous of me. See if you have the nerve to talk to me like that in person after seeing how serious my face looks and how healthy and in shape I am, you nerd who doesn't do anything except computer stuff and has no balance. I've had enough and if you cme here and saw me, you might see a craziness in my eyes full of anger and hate. You should know that to be most capable, you need to improve in all areas, not just academics (very close minded). I agree with Mars when he used the word "geek". So much more to life than computers.

I could probably find a lot of info of you on the net just by typing your nickname or email address, like a detective. I notice the smallest things and it allowed me to analyze things like the way people talked and change their stories and I find out the truth about certain people and find out they lied to me or had hidden motives. That takes a lot of intelligence and determination (strength) to be like a detective and analyze things in deep detail like I do and then using that info to find out I was lied to. I doubt you can do that. Some people are so surprised how I found out so much. Oh, I did find you everywhere:

http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=572

http://forum.vuze.com/profile.jspa?userID=7182

http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=69490

http://tehwii.tehskeen.com/forums/member.php?u=19787

http://www.penguinbomb.com/nodewar/forum/showpost.php?p=25957&postcount=24

and so much more. That was easy...




I have had enough stress lately and if you want me to be really mean, I can. I don't really care if this world falls aparts. Let it and I hope it does. Nothing lasts forever and I hope I annoy the hell out of you! Even Freespace won't be around forever and FSO. You will see. Open your eyes to the truth. Everything ends in one way or another. You think you know so much. You probably have a bunch of people in your life but you take it for granted. But maybe if you had things happen enough, you would start to appreciate it. Why don't you come and meet me and then maybe you would have your mind changed in an instant. Do you think you mean anything to me? Unlike most people, I don't want or need people's help and so I'm not weak like most. I also don't want to feel like I'm using anyone so I try to do much on my own since I have certain rules and a sense of guilt in certain things, even little things sometimes.

Yeah, post count means nothing and someone grown up like me doesn't care about stupid post count or what you think since you never met me. For example, I wouldn't waste my time decorating my nickname and putting childish signatures in my nick. Yeah, you can check my profile for my register date, but that means nothing too. I almost feel I have grown beyond even being in this forum and I should just restrict myself to downloading and reading and not helping to fix up a campaign like I am, but I will make sure I upload it to Trashman when I'm ready. I went back and deleted more posts and all the ones that had advice in them too. People who show me no respect don't deserve my advice or help. You can tell that I'm educated by my ideas and my vocabulary, but I mix physical and mental strength and speed and balance with brains, unlike geeks. The ones who improve in most areas and think outside the box are the true winners in life and when you grow up more, you will see that and open your eyes!

Now I don't care if I am banned. Go ahead, do it. I've had enough. This board is full of liberal rude sarcastic childish athiests who think they know so much when no one knows everything. If I could, I would delete my account. I shouldn't be wasting my time on this forum and helping to fix a campaign because of the lack of spelling and grammar. I help others and get nothing but this? Why should I help anyone. Most people don't deserve me in their life and I owe them nothing. This time I didn't hold back and if I am banned, too bad for me.
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That you wasted time searching for his presence online merely demonstrates how much you care despite your rants to the contrary. Doing something easy does not demonstrate strength or intelligence. Nor do ad hominem attacks. I think I can understand why someone with a god complex would have issues with atheists.

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Over projection much?
No, High Max just deleted his post that Bobboau was responding to, as he does when someone disagrees with his posts. You can see the original posts in quotes.

No, I don't think so. HM certainly picked the right target....Doesn't explain (or excuse) his lapsing into high-speed rant mode...
He does this too.

 

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Re: Symantec's Norton Antivirus now with embedded malware?
I just love it when he accuses everyone else of being closed-minded and then posting something like that... Oh, and "liberal rude sarcastic childish atheists"? Guilty as charged. :D
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