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Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
Since I can't find any reason to insert them in it's belly.
Considering what I know from canon (and note that I didn't write CANON), the mere size of the Lucy's explosion and the energy emitted by that was what collapsed the node.

If so, why did we fill the Bastion with Mesons?
And if the energy from the Mesons was necessary why didn't you just put'em up on Argos or what were used at the Knossos and send them into the node - without crew, of course?
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
Because an Orion is just a little bit harder to kill than an Argo?
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
Because an Orion is just a little bit harder to kill than an Argo?

Would the Shivans care about 3 Argos moving alone towards Capella?
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
They care about everything and attack whatever's not Shivan (or speaking Shivan).

 

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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
The problem is, do you rely on the shivans to ignore the transports, or do you use a delivery vehicle that actually has a chance to reach the target when it comes under fire? Since they didn't have that many meson bombs available, I guess command just didn't want to take the chance.
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
I give that point to you, but it isn't canon. The assumption comes from that Alpha 1 ironically never participated in a boring, enemyless escort mission.

Other par of my question what I think you forgot about: Wouldn't the sheer explosion of the Basion do the trick?
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
Probably. But again, why take that chance?
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
The Lucy was a tiny bit bigger than the average Orion, but I think the main source of energy were its big reactors needed to power the shields. The Bastion's energy output would have been less.

They have probably overdone it with all the meson bombs, but indeed, why take the chance.

 

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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
The Lucy was a tiny bit bigger than the average Orion, but I think the main source of energy were its big reactors needed to power the shields. The Bastion's energy output would have been less.

They have probably overdone it with all the meson bombs, but indeed, why take the chance.

And were the Mesons developed in Gamma Draconis or what? If they were (or would have been) developes in the heart of the GTVA, then why did they transfer them out just to rush back with them to Capella? It wasn't necessary to face the Shivan armada at all.
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
They were developed at the Hideki institute in Vega
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
Command had two possible routes Vega->Capella or Vega->Deneb->Sirius->Regulus->Polaris->Epsilon Pegasi

Hardly surprising that they picked the shorter, more dangerous one.
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
Command had two possible routes Vega->Capella or Vega->Deneb->Sirius->Regulus->Polaris->Epsilon Pegasi

Hardly surprising that they picked the shorter, more dangerous one.

Is it posssible that Intersystem jump - recharge - jump to the other node - recharge - jump again?
If so, why didn't the Bastion (or any ship) goes like that?
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
What do you mean?
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
Simply put, it's the age-old question of "Why do they always jump in so far from the node?"

 

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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
Simply put, it's the age-old question of "Why do they always jump in so far from the node?"

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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
Presumably so as to be a moving target while jump drives recharge.
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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
The reason they needed Meson's is because The detonation of the Lucifer and its reactors destabilized the sol node. The Lucifer was packing allot more hardware, weapons, and those five reactors, who's explosive firepower is enough to blow away a super destroyer if detonated within a reasonable time, I think, would far out weigh the explosive firepower of a retired Orion class destroyer alone, or a Fully armed FS2 Era V/T destroyer of any sort.

 

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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
I'm guessing it's a combination of raw explosion size (5 reactors on Lucifer, several meson bombs on Bastion) and mass (Pure size of Lucifer and Bastion) that prevented them from just towing some meson warheads into the node and remotely detonating them. Course, I don't know much about physics, and even less about subspace physics.

 

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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
With the survival of the Terran and Vasudan species at stake, the GTVA didn't want to take chances on a phenomenon that had never been properly observed before. The Lucifer's explosion was probably bigger than a normal Orion's. Maybe the Capella-Epsilon Pegasi node was more stable, and would take a bigger explosion, than the Sol-Delta Serpentis node. A gutted Orion stood a better chance than freighters, of getting the bombs safely to the node.

Why did they jump in so far away? We can only speculate, but maybe intrasystem jumps don't work for large-mass capital ships, when they are too close to a node. Karajorma's explanation works, too.

EDIT: Yes, I meant Delta Serpentis...
« Last Edit: March 23, 2009, 06:03:40 am by FSW »

 

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Re: Did the Bastion love Meson bombs?
Sol-Delta Serpentis you mean.

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