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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
Well, in the main FS2 campaign, 8 fighters are often all that is there to defend a destroyer >.>
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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
Well, in the main FS2 campaign, 8 fighters are often all that is there to defend a destroyer >.>

In fact, my walkthrough for Dunkerque is based off the fact that Delta wing defended the GTD Messana from all Shivan bombers. On Very Easy. :nervous:
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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
Well...
Colossus wields more firepower than 5 Orion-class destroyers combined xD
And it is more than most of the battlegroups wield:D So, we have to have about 50-60 Orion's to withstand it.[we've got, well, 13 battlegroups]. OK, 40 Orions. We can call it whole fleet, I think. Whole fleet has got firepower about 40-60 Orions combined, am I wrong?
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Kobrar i didnt get anithing that you said could you please rephrase that ??
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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
Sorry.
I'll try to explain it. I don't speak english very well. I'm not even... Never mind:D
OK.
We've got 13 battlegroups. Clear?
We know that Colossus wields more firepower than 5 Orion class destroyers combined. Clear? Colossus cutscene.
From techroom we know that Colossus wields more firepower than most of the battlegroups. That means 1 battlegroup =< 5 Orions.
that means 13 battlegroups=<65 Orions.
Clear?
That means 13 battlegroups can wield more firepower than 50 Orions[it's less than 65, so it can be correct]
Clear?
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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
It seems the entire FS campaign was centered around the 3rd fleet in Capella, and they were responsible for eliminating the NTF, or at least had the firepower to do it. By the end of the campaign, Petrarch talks about the Fleet being 'decimated.' So its probably safe to assume the Aquitaine was the sole surviving destroyer. There were several Orions still in the 3rd fleet and 2 known Hecates.. the Aquitaine and the Phonecia. Keep in mind that Admiral Bosche was the Admiral of an enitre Terran fleet, so assuming the whole fleet rebelled along with him, the entire size of the NTF might be a good indication as to the typical size of a Terran fleet. The NTF however, would be using all available assets including mothbolled destroyers and older fighters.

 
Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
It's safe to assume that the NTF is roughly about 2 fleets. Seeing as 3 fleets (and maybe a smattering from adjacent systems) rebelled, and probably not everyone liked that idea, there was probably not 3 full fleets.
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Petrarch talks about the Fleet being 'decimated.' So its probably safe to assume the Aquitaine was the sole surviving destroyer.

decimated = reduced by 10%.

 

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Petrarch talks about the Fleet being 'decimated.' So its probably safe to assume the Aquitaine was the sole surviving destroyer.
decimated = reduced by 10%.
Only in the classical sense.

 

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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
dec·i·mate  (ds-mt)
tr.v. dec·i·mat·ed, dec·i·mat·ing, dec·i·mates
1. To destroy or kill a large part of (a group).
2. Usage Problem
a. To inflict great destruction or damage on: The fawns decimated my rose bushes.
b. To reduce markedly in amount: a profligate heir who decimated his trust fund.
3. To select by lot and kill one in every ten of.



Decimate can mean pretty much any number. So your guess is as good as mine...
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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
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Petrarch talks about the Fleet being 'decimated.' So its probably safe to assume the Aquitaine was the sole surviving destroyer.

decimated = reduced by 10%.

In Pertrarch's vocab anyway  :lol:

 

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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
Decimated can both mean "completely destroyed/killed" and "almost completely destroyed/killed". The variety of the term is the result of the fact that, sometimes, there virtually is no difference between one meaning and the other.

Writing what dictionaries intend by "decimating" may be a bit pointless giving the various meaning of the verb. It's the writer's mind that really counts, not what the majority of the population thinks.
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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
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Petrarch talks about the Fleet being 'decimated.' So its probably safe to assume the Aquitaine was the sole surviving destroyer.

decimated = reduced by 10%.

In modern usage, more like 90%.

 

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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
Or in simpler terms:

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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
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Petrarch talks about the Fleet being 'decimated.' So its probably safe to assume the Aquitaine was the sole surviving destroyer.

decimated = reduced by 10%.

Alternatively 'Reduced to 10%'.
Which is what I've always taken it as.
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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
It still doesn't give us any numbers. It could be 50% it could be 70% it could be 80% or 90%.
We just don't know.
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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
It still doesn't give us any numbers. It could be 50% it could be 70% it could be 80% or 90%.
We just don't know.

Well it's safe to say it's a number that hurt the GTVA to some extent.

 

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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
I think its safe to say the writers didn't mean that the Fleet had been decimated by 10%.

 

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Re: Total strength of GTA, PVE and GTVA
Modern usage (however incorrect) usually means more than 10%