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Offline TigerVX

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First Contact... Huh?
Well, first off, awesome campaign, I'm loving it and I've only just started! Took me more then a couple tries to get past Forced Entry... But that's not whats troubling me. The mission First Contact doesn't seem to work very well for me. I warp in, check the two signals, get a bunch of dialogue, and I get to them talking about what the fighters are made of then it just stops.

At first I thought, well okay, I'll just warp out because it said my engines are recharged. Well, I got a no briefing screen and it said I failed the mission. Alright, I'll just shoot the two buggers down and warp out, is that what it wants? Nope, same thing. So now I really don't know what else I'm suppose to do in this mission. Nothing seems to happen after they start talking about what the fighters are made of.

 

Offline blowfish

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
Spoiler:
Stay put.  If you get too close to the unknowns, you fail the mission

 

Offline TigerVX

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
Alright, I kept my distance this time and it still stops at the same spot. "They're made of Crystal" ect. ect. is where it ends, right after my engines recharge. After that I just sit around, looking at the little buggers patrolling around at a good 2000 m distance away, and nothing happens. Is this how the rest of the mission is suppose to go, or is something broken?

 

Offline blowfish

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
When the mission starts, just cut your engines.  You won't need to move at all during the mission.  Wait for the dialogue to end and the fighters to jump out.  Pretty soon you should get a directive or something to jump out.  At that point, do so.

 

Offline TigerVX

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
I didn't touch the mission after setting my burners to zero, waited for ten minutes, and nothing happened.

I'm beginning to think that my mission is broken or something!

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
Did you target both of the unknowns?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline TigerVX

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
Hrm, I made sure to target both unknowns, still the same result, nothing happens after the engines recharge and they talk about what they fighters are made of  :confused:

 
Re: First Contact... Huh?
What build and what version of BP are you using?

 

Offline TigerVX

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
I used the Freespace Open installer to get it, so whatever version came with that. Is there a newer one? I'm also using the 3.6.10 exe, not the 3.6.9 one.

 
Re: First Contact... Huh?
I bet you're using the 3.6.9 version. Try this.

 

Offline blowfish

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
nothing happened.

Did you try to jump out?

 

Offline TigerVX

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
I bet you're using the 3.6.9 version. Try this.

Alright, I downloaded that, its nice to have the new version, and I get a failed briefing now. The briefing tells me to not get close enough to the new fighters for them to detect me...

Did you try to jump out?

But the thing is, I can't start any new dialogue until I actually can target the unknowns, and once I target the unknowns they always turn around and make a B line for me, meaning they've detected me. But I can't jump out until I start the dialogue sequence when I detect the unknowns, otherwise the dialogue wont go, my engines wont recharge, and nothing will happen. But again, to get the dialogue started, I have to detect the enemy fighters with my targeter, which also lets them see me, which fails the mission for me.

Quite a paradox...

 

Offline blowfish

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
:wtf: If they head right toward you when you target them, either something is wrong or you are too close to you.  When the mission starts, just press backspace to kill your engines, and target them using T from exactly where you are.  They should ignore you and run their waypoints, and then jump out.  If you do all that and there's still a problem, then it might be a bug but MAKE SURE NOT TO MOVE AT ALL DURING THE MISSION

 

Offline TigerVX

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
Oh my... Targeting unknowns, well this is new *facepalm*

Guess I'm kind a noob then, sorry! I was still in the whole Freespace 2 unknown mindset. In all of Freespace 2, and most user campaigns, unknowns aren't targetable. And after that, the usual course of action is to fly at the bastards until they become friendly or hostile. So when I saw two purple blips on my radar, I just assumed they were the untargetable kind. Sorry, all this trouble over a little oversight by me, thanks for the help  :shaking:

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
Purple blip == not friendly and not hostile; unknown IFF status

Flashing blip == untargetable.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Rhymes

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
Catch is, FS2 used both.  You generally got FLASHING, PURPLE blips.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
Catch is, FS2 used both.  You generally got FLASHING, PURPLE blips.

Well, the first one I recall was flashing and red...and then the Sathani were flashing and red...

Were there any flashing purples?

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
Catch is, FS2 used both.  You generally got FLASHING, PURPLE blips.
Actually I don't remember seeing those ever. Just red. Maybe a few green. And the point was that if they flash, they can't be targeted except with possibly that funny "target ships attacking my currently selected friendly target" function. In this missions they did not flash -> they could be targeted.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: First Contact... Huh?
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Spoiler:
No, that was the target target's target key. Which may be any target.

 

Offline Aardwolf

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Re: First Contact... Huh?
I think purple may have been used once or twice in FS1, but I can't remember very well. Anyway, theIFF "Unknown" isn't used very much in the official campaigns.