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Offline Rodo

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yeah.. you send smoke signs to the support ship on the other side of the subspace node :P
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Offline Dilmah G

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As if the EMP didn't do the job well enough

 

Offline K515

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Perhaps use your cheat codes?

 

Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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Since this thread is still active, request move to the Silent Threat: Reborn thread?

K515, there is no cheat to restore hull integrity.
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Quote: Tuesday, 3 October 2023 0133 UTC +8, #general
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Offline Polpolion

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Were you listening to the message traffic at all?

That should explain everything.

Next time you replay, let me give you a hint -- take your wingman's suggestion right away!

Take orders from your wingmen? You're their superior officer! They don't have the authority to let you RTB!  :p

  

Offline General Battuta

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That's probably why I definitely didn't jump out my first time. Fear of the AWOL debriefing.

 

Offline Goober5000

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That's why the wingmen made a suggestion, not an order, and left it up to the superior officer to make the decision. :p

 

Offline Rhymes

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That's why the wingmen made a suggestion, not an order, and left it up to the superior officer to make the decision. :p

Read: They left it that way so you'd fall for it and get destroyed at least once. :nod:
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Same thing here - I feared the AWOL debriefing mainly because I got many kills during the mission and I didn't want to lose my achievements. :nervous:

No offense, but I think there should have been more emphasis on the wingman's voice...
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Offline General Battuta

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I think most pilots probably would've died there, so in that sense it was realistic. It did a good job of making the GTI look competent.

It was a bit frustrating from a player's POV, but hey...sacrifices.

 

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Most pilots would have escaped. It's the players who have problems about that. :nervous:
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Offline General Battuta

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I've never seen a friendly pilot jump out without orders...

 

Offline Rhymes

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*cough*SECRETS REBORN?!!*cough*   :nod:
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Offline ssmit132

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They weren't exactly friendly anymore, though.

Although one thing I didn't understand was what Zeta 1 was talking about when he said that "They didn't mention any of this in the briefing."

 

Offline Goober5000

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Although one thing I didn't understand was what Zeta 1 was talking about when he said that "They didn't mention any of this in the briefing."
Yeah, I could have written that line better.  The idea is that Zeta 1's briefing presented the mission as fairly cut-and-dry: these are bad guys, go blow up their installation.  (Keep in mind that Zeta and Omicron are standard GTA pilots, so they don't have the benefit of the player's missions with GTI.)  Problem is, the Jotunheim commander raised all sorts of issues that cast the situation in a very different light: the precarious situation of the GTA military, the uncertain nature of the Terran-Vasudan cease-fire, the existence of a "prototype" capable of winning the Terran-Vasudan war, etc.  The pilot realizes they've got a point (at least from his perspective) and decides that Jotunheim is better qualified to give orders than Command.

 

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Same thing here - I feared the AWOL debriefing mainly because I got many kills during the mission and I didn't want to lose my achievements. :nervous:

No offense, but I think there should have been more emphasis on the wingman's voice...


I always felt that adding a new directive titled "Jump?" would be appropriate.
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Quote: Tuesday, 3 October 2023 0133 UTC +8, #general
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Offline Dilmah G

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I would agree that'd be a good move

 

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That sort of makes the decision for you though.

 

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The idea is that Zeta 1's briefing presented the mission as fairly cut-and-dry: these are bad guys, go blow up their installation.  (Keep in mind that Zeta and Omicron are standard GTA pilots, so they don't have the benefit of the player's missions with GTI.)  Problem is, the Jotunheim commander raised all sorts of issues that cast the situation in a very different light: the precarious situation of the GTA military, the uncertain nature of the Terran-Vasudan cease-fire, the existence of a "prototype" capable of winning the Terran-Vasudan war, etc.  The pilot realizes they've got a point (at least from his perspective) and decides that Jotunheim is better qualified to give orders than Command.
Ah. I had an inkling it meant that.

That sort of makes the decision for you though.
Not partcularly; this is probably a bad example, but in JAD2 you got a directive to destroy the NTSC Pal, when you shouldn't. However, Command is portrayed as an idiot in JAD2.

 

Offline Commander Zane

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And the Pal ends up destroyed regardless of whether or not you do...