[chief1983]

 



If you've been living under a rock for 5 days

[portej05]

You, sir, are a sick man.

[karajorma]

No idea how true it is but this is pretty funny.

[Flipside]

This was actually EA testing their new DRM

[Fury]

Next up on the list; ninjas.

[Knight Templar]

If you've been living under a rock for 5 days

I lol'd.

[The E]

Next up on the list; ninjas.

You mean this wasn't Pirates against Ninjas, Round 1?

[Herra Tohtori]

Damn, looks like Obama has no intentions on changing the US attitude towards climate warming.



Then again, I doubt these pirates use the proper full pirate regalia, so it might not invoke the wrath of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. If Mr. Obama prays for forgiveness.

We'll see.

[General Battuta]

Apparently there was a fourth pirate from the group who was on board a US ship negotiating at the time the snipers attacked.

Wonder what he thinks.

[Flipside]

He's probably realising that the response to Piracy has been the same throughout history to be honest. It's unfortunate and underhand, but then, so is hijacking a tanker fill of innocents purely for profit.

Had this had some kind of political/attention motivation, maybe I'd have more sympathy, and it does, unfortunately, mean the lines are drawn now for future pirate negotiations, things are going to get a lot rougher out there, but to be honest, it was the only real response that America could give, whether it is now or in 5 years time, it is going to kick off.

[Inquisitor]

What does shariah law say about stealing?

Makes me wonder where the Somali pirates think they are going to get sympathy

And I love that chart, kara

[General Battuta]

He's probably realising that the response to Piracy has been the same throughout history to be honest. It's unfortunate and underhand, but then, so is hijacking a tanker fill of innocents purely for profit.

Had this had some kind of political/attention motivation, maybe I'd have more sympathy, and it does, unfortunately, mean the lines are drawn now for future pirate negotiations, things are going to get a lot rougher out there, but to be honest, it was the only real response that America could give, whether it is now or in 5 years time, it is going to kick off.

Oh, I don't at all disagree with the American response -- I think it was an excellent move.

I just bet that pirate who was negotiating is glad he wasn't still on the boat!

[The E]

What does shariah law say about stealing?

Makes me wonder where the Somali pirates think they are going to get sympathy

And I love that chart, kara

Yeah. Comes in handy during those correlation != causation debates. (Whether it's an argument for or against is left as an exercise for the reader).

AS for shariah law, according to wikipedia:

In accordance with the Qur'an and several hadith, theft is punished by imprisonment or amputation of hands or feet, depending on the number of times it was committed and depending on the item of theft. However, before the punishment is executed two eyewitnesses under oath must say that they saw the person stealing. If these witnesses cannot be produced then the punishment cannot be executed.^{[citation needed]} Witnesses must be either two men, or, if only one man can be found, one man and two women. Several requirements are in place for the amputation of hands, so the actual instances of this are relatively few^{[citation needed]}; they are:

    * There must have been criminal intent to take private (not common) property.
    * The theft must not have been the product of hunger, necessity, or duress.
    * The goods stolen must: be over a minimum value, not haraam, and not owned by the thief's family.
    * Goods must have been taken from custody (i.e. not in a public place).
    * There must be reliable witnesses.
    * The punishment is imposed even if the thief repents. [said by the Prophet]

All of these must be met under the scrutiny of judicial authority. [Qur'an 5:38][121]

[captain-custard]

What does shariah law say about stealing?

Makes me wonder where the Somali pirates think they are going to get sympathy

And I love that chart, kara

Yeah. Comes in handy during those correlation != causation debates. (Whether it's an argument for or against is left as an exercise for the reader).

AS for shariah law, according to wikipedia:

In accordance with the Qur'an and several hadith, theft is punished by imprisonment or amputation of hands or feet, depending on the number of times it was committed and depending on the item of theft. However, before the punishment is executed two eyewitnesses under oath must say that they saw the person stealing. If these witnesses cannot be produced then the punishment cannot be executed.^{[citation needed]} Witnesses must be either two men, or, if only one man can be found, one man and two women. Several requirements are in place for the amputation of hands, so the actual instances of this are relatively few^{[citation needed]}; they are:

    * There must have been criminal intent to take private (not common) property.
    * The theft must not have been the product of hunger, necessity, or duress.
    * The goods stolen must: be over a minimum value, not haraam, and not owned by the thief's family.
    * Goods must have been taken from custody (i.e. not in a public place).
    * There must be reliable witnesses.
    * The punishment is imposed even if the thief repents. [said by the Prophet]

All of these must be met under the scrutiny of judicial authority. [Qur'an 5:38][121]

well no loosing limbs then , find me someone oin somalia who isnt hungry!

[Flipside]

And yet they'd rather ransom a tanker of food than empty it?

[NGTM-1R]

I just bet that pirate who was negotiating is glad he wasn't still on the boat!

He actually wasn't still negotiating; he more or less turned himself in because he was injured and needed treatment, and advised the others to do the same. This apparently made things worse.

[captain-custard]

And yet they'd rather ransom a tanker of food than empty it?

its a bit difficult to unload it.......at sea

[Flipside]

Not really no, You don't need to take the containers, just the contents, take it to somewhere hidden, keep the crew under guard, ferry off the food, or at least as much as you can, and then release the crew sans a load of cargo, if this was about the food itself, that is what the sensible course would be, because you don't want people finding out who you are, you are ashamed of being a thief, but it's a matter of survival.

This was a blatant announcement of 'We are thieves and we want money', I don't think any court in the world would buy 'hunger' as a defence.

That said, I'm not entirely sure that, as relief aid, this would be considered 'private property'.

[Silent Warrior]

Herra Tohtori: You, sir, have made my day. Ramen! May your marinara be succulent!

[maje]

Lol, that chart is pretty funny, despite that while Obama may indeed have been the only president to authorize the use of force against pirates in recent memory, he's still a long ways from beating Thomas Jefferson's record.