[Kosh]

Ok not quite but the pirate bay trial is finished in sweden and the founders were sentenced to a year in jail and a $4.5 million fine.


This sentence reeks of political pandering. Thoughts?

[Dilmah G]

ONE year in jail......they should've just fined the bastards, or better yet, not have bothered. There are plenty of sites similar that'll keep running.

This sentence reeks of political pandering.

QFT

[captain-custard]

theyve asked for a bail out and will get a golden parachute and a real good retirement package ...... oooops thats bankers not humans

[Polpolion]

 

[Uchuujinsan]

the decision is not final

[Dilmah G]

the decision is not final

Wasn't it the verdict? Or are you referring to the endless stream of appeals that are going to be hurled by the defendants.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I'd really like to see how the pirate community will react to this and/or if the appeal is rejected.

* Androgeos Exeunt starts thinking of the "Bad Boys" song.

[The E]

As Cory Doctorow said, something like this will only accelerate the development of an infrastructure that is even harder to police effectively.

[BloodEagle]

$4,500,000!? .... .... ....   

[WeatherOp]

I laugh at the idiots that got caught, fined and jailed. Muhahahahaha 

[Rick James]

I laugh at the idiots that got caught, fined and jailed. Muhahahahaha 

Art thou an MPAA or prehaps and RIAA lobbyist?

[kode]

Ok not quite but the pirate bay trial is finished in sweden and the founders were sentenced to a year in jail and a $4.5 million fine.


This sentence reeks of political pandering. Thoughts?

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,60951.msg1231623.html#msg1231623

only five hours ahead of you. I guess you're finally starting to catch up.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

I laugh at the idiots that got caught, fined and jailed. Muhahahahaha 

No use for a BABeam this time round, but still...

[Scooby_Doo]

I laugh at the idiots that got caught, fined and jailed. Muhahahahaha 

No use for a BABeam this time round, but still...

I say gridfire would be more effective 

[Blue Lion]

Are we all going to sit around and ignore what these guys do? 

We're just tiptoeing around the elephant in the room?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

We're just tiptoeing around the elephant in the room?

Who? WeatherOp?

[Blue Lion]

We're just tiptoeing around the elephant in the room?

Who? WeatherOp?

What people do on TPB

[kode]

Are we all going to sit around and ignore what these guys do? 

Supplying us with a platform to share all sorts of culture in the digital society? Shame on them. That others use and have used it for illegally distributing other peoples works is perhaps not "right", but it is quite farfetched to find them guilty of contributing to it, when it really can't be said that they have urged anyone to do so. Have you even read their user policy where it says "don't do illegal stuff kthx"? I suppose feigning indignance is easier. Similar services of finding illegal material is search engines.

Part of the guilt came from them running an open tracker (a tracker where torrents don't have to be registered), many many of these torrents weren't/aren't searchable from the pirate bay. It can be analogued to a postal service or a roundabout. The post isn't responsible for what criminal acts you commit when sending drugs, nor does the transit department suffer from your speeding.

Miscarriage of justice, this might even be called. The verdict was leaked at least 12 hours before it was supposed to be released, which is also a cause of concern.

[Blue Lion]

Yea you're right, these sites are mostly perfectly legal things being moved back and forth  These are in no way massive file sharing sites where the majority are illegal.

I just love how people will stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalala most of the traffic isn't being used to move ripped movies, games, songs and programs!"

Everyone knows this is full of stolen material, but since they support it, they just pretend it's not there (or a very small portion).

I can go on Pirate Bay right now and find MASSIVE amounts of movies, songs, games, programs. I can go get anything I want for my computer without ever paying a dime.

I fully expect this thread to go into how it's not really stealing, then how it is stealing but helps these companies that own the property, and then how it can't be stopped so we might as well let it go on.

[NGTM-1R]

Of course it's theft. That's not the point.

The point is that theft has provided a viable, risk-free, and more useful alternative to legitimate acquistion. It is, in a word, better. Indeed, it is vastly better, otherwise this massive theft-engine you scorn would not exist.

And this is an important lesson: the old methods are outmoded, dated, dying. The Pirate Bay is one of the people killing them. This verdict is one of the last gasps, the desperate final defense against the encroaching reality.

But reality will not, can not, be denied. Any effort to do so is inevitably doomed to failure and will do incalcuable harm. They do not have the dignity to come along quietly; they must rant and rave, unhinged, dangerous, against their demise. And that can only accelerate it.