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Offline karajorma

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on: March 23, 2002, 03:08:49 am
In your mind what is the most useless SEXP? Is it just cause you can`t think of a possible use for it or just cause you can achieve the same thing more efficeiently with another SEXP.
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Reply #1 on: March 23, 2002, 03:18:50 am
Beam-Free-All.

The beams should be on by default.
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Reply #2 on: March 23, 2002, 03:22:04 am
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Beam-Free-All.

The beams should be on by default.


Can't argue with that :D
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Reply #3 on: March 23, 2002, 03:55:39 am
Lets see...

never-warp and allow-warp (break-warp/fix-warp do the same thing)
is-tagged (doesn't work and would do the same thing as has-been-tagged-delay)
is-iff (doesn't work)
ship-guardian/ship-no-guardian (basically the same thing as ship-invulnerable/ship-vulnerable)
error (really stupid operator)

That's about it. :D
 

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Reply #4 on: March 23, 2002, 08:26:37 am
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Lets see...

never-warp and allow-warp (break-warp/fix-warp do the same thing)
 


Not sure about that. It's used in the Lions den mission and we all love that do we? :rolleyes:
 

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Reply #5 on: March 23, 2002, 11:21:01 am
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Beam-Free-All.

The beams should be on by default.


Hehe, not really on default.
Beam free all should be to set on ships settings!:nod:
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Reply #6 on: March 23, 2002, 11:51:19 am
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Not sure about that. It's used in the Lions den mission and we all love that do we? :rolleyes:


Well, they do the same thing in any case; the break-warp/fix-warp ones could have been used just as easily instead. :p
 

Offline Ulundel

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Reply #7 on: March 23, 2002, 12:14:28 pm
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Well, they do the same thing in any case; the break-warp/fix-warp ones could have been used just as easily instead. :p


Well that makes it another try by volition to make a good joke. :wtf:
  

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Reply #8 on: March 23, 2002, 12:25:00 pm
They have a difference actually. Break-warp stops you from exiting subspace, but that can be fixed with a Support Ship.
Never-warp can be altered only by Allow-warp. Not that it matters.

What about jettison-cargo-delay. I've never seen that one used
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Reply #9 on: March 23, 2002, 12:52:04 pm
I think I might have seen that in FS1 somewhere, but I'm not sure.

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They have a difference actually. Break-warp stops you from exiting subspace, but that can be fixed with a Support Ship.
Never-warp can be altered only by Allow-warp. Not that it matters.


The support ships aren't available in Into the Lion's Den, so it wouldn't make too much of a difference. I guess it might have some usefulness then if support ships cannot repair it, but they should then remove break-warp/fix-warp and keep the other two. :p:D

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Well that makes it another try by volition to make a good joke. :wtf:


I guess that could be true; after all, we all know Volition has a strange sense of humor... :D
 

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Reply #10 on: March 23, 2002, 01:33:51 pm
Special-warp

You know, all the stupid ones that only work with Knossos portals?
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Reply #11 on: March 23, 2002, 01:48:35 pm
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Special-warp

You know, all the stupid ones that only work with Knossos portals?


I use those. I actually like the green glow.
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Reply #12 on: March 23, 2002, 01:55:59 pm
both sets of warp sexps have their uses, you just need to know how to use them.  As for Volition's jokes, i got a rather funny one not long ago:  I was fredding a mission, the last mission, for TFP when i placed one cruiser too many and Fred2 kicked me out.  When i openned the mission again, one of the cruisers had been renamed to U.R.A. Moron 1.  Damn programmer humor ;7
 

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Reply #13 on: March 23, 2002, 03:04:42 pm
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Well that makes it another try by volition to make a good joke. :wtf:


Yea, I'm beginning to understand why Freespace 2 sold only that many copies
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Reply #14 on: March 23, 2002, 03:06:38 pm
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both sets of warp sexps have their uses, you just need to know how to use them.  As for Volition's jokes, i got a rather funny one not long ago:  I was fredding a mission, the last mission, for TFP when i placed one cruiser too many and Fred2 kicked me out.  When i openned the mission again, one of the cruisers had been renamed to U.R.A. Moron 1.  Damn programmer humor ;7



LOL. Wow, the second joke from Volition that is actually funny! :nod:
 

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Reply #15 on: March 23, 2002, 05:28:28 pm
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Yea, I'm beginning to understand why Freespace 2 sold only that many copies


Yeah, Interplay literally hid the game from the public. You cant buy what you,ve not heard of.
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Reply #16 on: March 24, 2002, 12:28:51 am
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LOL. Wow, the second joke from Volition that is actually funny! :nod:


HEADZZZZZZZZZZZZ! :D

Actually, there're a few funny ones. There's the shivan bodyslamming the guy in hall fight, Summoner Geeks and a few other good ones. These two are preety sweet though.
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Reply #17 on: March 24, 2002, 12:41:40 am
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both sets of warp sexps have their uses, you just need to know how to use them.  As for Volition's jokes, i got a rather funny one not long ago:  I was fredding a mission, the last mission, for TFP when i placed one cruiser too many and Fred2 kicked me out.  When i openned the mission again, one of the cruisers had been renamed to U.R.A. Moron 1.  Damn programmer humor ;7


I seem to recall that happening in version 1.01 I think? Anyways the GTVA Colossus would randomly be named that.
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Reply #18 on: March 24, 2002, 04:05:53 am
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HEADZZZZZZZZZZZZ! :D

Actually, there're a few funny ones. There's the shivan bodyslamming the guy in hall fight, Summoner Geeks and a few other good ones. These two are preety sweet though.


In my opinion the only good jokes are that moron thingy and "freespace wants to sleep" in one of the table files.
 

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Reply #19 on: March 24, 2002, 05:02:47 am
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error (really stupid operator)



I think we have a winner! Why on earth would you ever need to use that SEXP? Even in mission testing it would be far more sensible to put a message in its place saying ERROR. :D



never-warp and allow-warp (break-warp/fix-warp do the same thing)
is-tagged (doesn't work and would do the same thing as has-been-tagged-delay)
is-iff (doesn't work)
ship-guardian/ship-no-guardian (basically the same thing as ship-invulnerable/ship-vulnerable)

I`ve found uses for never-warp and allow warp. They are very useful in missions where you want the player to make use of a jump node. You could probably base a mission around a broken jump drive and thereby make use of break-warp so it isn`t completely useless.

I agree with you about ship-guardian what's the point in a SEXP that prevents weapons from doing damage but stil lets you get blown up by explosions and the like.

I haven`t bothered with the others you mentioned so I guess they really are useless :D
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