[peterv]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,621025,00.html

[The E]

And you needed to autogodwinate this, why, exactly?

[peterv]

autowhat? 

[Ghostavo]

Godwin's Law

Hence, Auto - Godwin - ate

[Blue Lion]

Wait, installing noise makers to discourage teens from loitering is somehow... what? Nazi? Holocausty?

[The E]

It isn't IMHO. Annoying, yes. Genocidally insane, no.

[peterv]

Hitler was a dictator. Holocaust and genocide were only two of his crimes. When i say that he would be proud i mean that like any dictator he would love anti-democratic practices like this.
Sorry, i thought that it was obvious.

[Blue Lion]

How exactly is it anti-democratic?

The article itself says no one knows the legal status of it.

[peterv]

My bad. It isn't. It's a great measure.
(I need a drink).

[Liberator]

Anti-democratic?  So some noise makers were put up to discourage teenagers from gather to discuss matters of some national or international import?  Or just to keep them from loitering in front of a business interfering with the owners ability to conduct business and possibly hassling incoming or outgoing shoppers?

[The E]

Hmmm. This is questionable, but far from anti-democratic, in my opinion. The problem here is that it's a cure for a symptom, but doesn't affect the disease.

[TrashMan]

Great.
Finally someone thought of putting the fear of the elders back into the spoiled and rotten kids of today again.
 

[Ghostavo]

Since it affects most people under 25, I'd say the problem will solve itself in the long run when those places start bankrupting themselves.

If I was one of those effected by the things, I'd bring a huge radio and start playing music extremely loud. When told to stop, I'd point out the hypocrisy.

[Flipside]

Agree with Ghostavo, any shop that wants to drive away an entire chunk of their potential customers in the current financial climate will up weeding itself out of the problem.

[Liberator]

But we aren't talking about potential customers, we're talking about groups of teenagers who aren't shopping or buying, they're just loitering.

[Ghostavo]

The device affects most people under 25 without distinction. That means toddlers will be irritated by it just as well as people old enough to know what they are doing.

And while that seems to be a small portion (well, not really, but let's say it is) of the demography of the place, it will also have an effect on adjacent ones, since those people will most likely not frequent that place years to come. Another side effect presents itself to parents, would you frequent places that actively irritated and gave headaches to your child?

[Blue Lion]

"So this is how Liberty dies, with a constant ****ing buzzing sound"

[StarSlayer]

Why? teenagers would be in the Hitler Youth program not loitering in front of shops like malcontents.  Plus annoying sound makers are a massive step down from getting kicked in the ass by angry jackbooted goons.  I would say he would be disappointed:P

[Turambar]

Liberator and Trashman hate freedom.

[Grizzly]

I, myself, as a dutch youth, have never encountered the mosquito (I live in a rural area). However, I am quite sure it IS unconstitutional. We have a Freedom-Of-Gathering constitution, which allows any group to form anywhere within the bounds of the law (In other words, if they don't go throwing rocks, 8 16-year olds may go anywhere as they please by the constituion) The mosquite prevents that from happening, thus, it is unconstitutional.

(And what is a mosquito doeing near a school? A mosquito is supposed to scare off kids, why do you want to scare people away from schools?)