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Offline iamzack

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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
Huh, I didn't think of that. Let's go, then, Tura.
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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
Eh, they said that with SARS and bird flu.

Yep. And prompt action from the WHO stopped them being a bigger problem.

I've never understood the thought processes of people who complain that disasters weren't bigger because proper precautions were taken against them.
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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
Who's been complaining that they're not a bigger problem?

 

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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
It's a fairly common thing. I've heard all kinds of complaints about the reaction to SARS being heavy-handed.
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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
Eh, they said that with SARS and bird flu. SARS was something to get scared about since we didn't have anything to protect against it. At least we've got some treatments for it based on existing H1N1 vaccine stockpiles.

The only functional mitigating treatment we have is antivirals... and those aren't widely available in most of the world.  If this thing actually does switch to a lethal person-to-person transmittable strain capable of operating in colder climates, this is a pandemic virus with the potential to decimate the Third World and wreak havoc even in countries with advanced health care systems.

In point of fact, this IS the avian influenza scare - a recombinant flu virus with avian components, incubated in pigs, that successfully jumps to humans.  The whole reason why avian influenza is a worry in the medical community is because of the recombinant properties of influenza as a viral family - it can create novel forms for which we have no natural immunity or medical counter with relative ease.  Anti-virals are of limited effectiveness because they are targeted generically at the viral immune response rather than at a particular virus.

SARS did not kill normal healthy adults.  Influenza does, and a novel strain of influenza is just as capable of wiping out a third of the human population on Earth now as it was back in 1918.
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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
Isn't the swine flu actually killing young adults, as well? That'd be a significant cause for worry.
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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
Eh, they said that with SARS and bird flu.

Yep. And prompt action from the WHO stopped them being a bigger problem.

I've never understood the thought processes of people who complain that disasters weren't bigger because proper precautions were taken against them.

Who's been complaining that they're not a bigger problem?

It's a fairly common thing. I've heard all kinds of complaints about the reaction to SARS being heavy-handed.

So true, and I even thought that tendence was an Italian featureTM, only.

But yeah, those people are boring. What do they expect, several hundred thousand deaths or anything like that to justify precautions? :wtf:
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This just happens to have happened during allergy season as well, so people who are sick from an immune overreaction to pollen get to be scared besides being miserable.
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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
All this talk of a pandemic has reminded me of this website.

I wonder how effective those treatments they have been stockpiling will be, should things become worse. Apparently, it would take months to make an effective vaccine for this type of flu according to what I'm reading here.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2009, 03:36:24 pm by lostllama »

 

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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
Isn't the swine flu actually killing young adults, as well? That'd be a significant cause for worry.

It's killed people in Mexico from pneumonia following the flu(which is how the normal seasonal flu kills). From some of the articles I've read, doctors in Mexico, turned a lot away or denied them care. That would easily explain the deaths so far as pneumonia can easily kill you if you don't get medical help.
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This just happens to have happened during allergy season as well, so people who are sick from an immune overreaction to pollen get to be scared besides being miserable.

I hear that, allergies are full fledged and it's time for another soaker to wash away the pollen.  :ick:
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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
Isn't the swine flu actually killing young adults, as well? That'd be a significant cause for worry.
Yeah but young does not equal healthy.  They could already be immune compromised and their systems are not able to fight off the flu.

Remember...its the flu.  It may be a nastier flu but the flu isn't really new to us....the statistics for the numbers of people who die from the flu every year are out there and its not some small insignificant number.  The key is prevention followed by proper treatment.  I don't think this is panic worthy yet....BUT the panic may make people do some sensible things like wash their bloody hands!
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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
Some cases in NS. Man, this ruins my parents big vacation.
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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
The conspiracy nutters are definately going to have a field day with this......
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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
The conspiracy nutters are definately going to have a field day with this......
They're way ahead of you. :p

Just found out that a few people down at my school's campus have presented "probable" cases of it, though there aren't really any details to go around.  If they made the connection that quickly, I kind of suspect they must have been in Mexico recently.

 

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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
Thankfully I'm not going to England until December. I know that's nowhere near Mexico, but I'd rather not travel around during this time.

 

Offline Darius

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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
A bit of basic hygiene, washing your hands regularly, not transferring particles from outside to your hands to your eyes/nose/mouth and everyone should be fine (unless the virus is spread by airborne particles? I'm not sure). That's the message the media should be sending out really.

EDIT: Well, obviously not fine as such considering the virulence of the strain, but still sensationalisation and inciting mass panic does nobody any good. Better to highlight the dangers of the influenza in a way that encourages proper steps to be taken to limit the spread.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2009, 03:20:00 am by Darius »

  

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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
http://xkcd.com/574/

"how long until the swine flu reaches me here in madagasgar?"

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Re: If any of you have Mexico in your travel plans...
I remember that game...
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