[Knight Templar]

Actually that's not my point at all. Not even close.

It's taboo to hit women like it's taboo to hit children. Basically, the view is that women are the same as children. Weak, fragile, in need of direction and protection, etc.

Thank you for this lesson on gender equality.

From now on, whenever a woman is being a twat waffle, I'm going to give her the left hook just I would any child or guy. Not because I'm a woman beater, but the exact opposite: because of my respect for all women, and a few children. If you want equality, that **** needs to be earned, *****.

[iamzack]

That sounds like equality to me.

But, a side note: equality needs to be earned by women? Really? Is that how that works?

[Knight Templar]

That sounds like equality to me.

But, a side note: equality needs to be earned by women? Really? Is that how that works?

Just because you got titties don't mean you're getting nothing handed to you on a silver plate. Stop being weak. You want equality, get in line, start a revolution like everyone else. Be ready to get clocked in the face.

[iamzack]

How about because I'm HUMAN I get to be equal to all other HUMANS.

You know, rather than being a subset of human, where people=men.

[Knight Templar]

How about because I'm HUMAN I get to be equal to all other HUMANS.

You know, rather than being a subset of human, where people=men.

lol wouldn't that be nice?

No, you get to prove it. You wanted to be treated "like men" you have to prove you can hang with them. Just like children have to prove they've grown up, just like every other oppressed minority in this country and every other has had to step up and prove themselves. Do it how you will, cite what sources are in your favor, but you still have to prove you can step up. Remember, chivalry is dead, you killed it. You get to live like men now, or at least, the wannabes.

[iamzack]

But straight (I assume by your direction) white men are automatically exempt from this "earning equality?"

I could understand if you meant each person has to prove themself, but no. You're saying that white men are automatically better than other races of men and women.

[TrashMan]

But that's just the point. Men and women aren't the same. They are different.

Both are humans yes, both have same rights. But treating them EXACTLY the same in every situation? Makes no sense. That would be denying the obvious and trying to force some artificial equality.

[iamzack]

Men and women are more similar than different. MOST differences are due to social factors.

[TrashMan]

Men and women are more similar than different. MOST differences are due to social factors.

Somewhat true. Physical factors play a big role. Not to mention that men and women have a tendacy to think in different ways.

But the point is that those small differences have to be taken into account.

[iamzack]

Yeah, occasionally. Maybe on a medical level.

But nothing really to warrant "women have different roles than men."

[Knight Templar]

But straight (I assume by your direction) white men are automatically exempt from this "earning equality?"

I could understand if you meant each person has to prove themself, but no. You're saying that white men are automatically better than other races of men and women.

Let's not play the ideological card here, because that's fail. We both know if the world worked ideally, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Everyone (including people with vaginas) would be equal, granted said equality under not only the U.S. Constitution (written by men) but also by God / natural law.

Somehow, things don't work that way though. 

 

But that's just the point. Men and women aren't the same. They are different.

Both are humans yes, both have same rights. But treating them EXACTLY the same in every situation? Makes no sense. That would be denying the obvious and trying to force some artificial equality.

qft

[iamzack]

Wow, way to not say a single thing, Knight.

[Mobius]

Men and women are similar? Research clearly shows more differences than the eyes could ever suggest. Women, for example, are physically weaker and feel more pain than men.

[Knight Templar]

Wow, way to not say a single thing, Knight.

If you look closely, I haven't really said anything new in years.

Also, while I'm too busy and uninterested to do any kind of superficial research into the subject, I like where Mobius is taking this thread. 

[iamzack]

That's a gross generalization. That's like saying whites are physically weaker and feel more pain than blacks. (@Mobius)

[Turambar]

Wow, way to not say a single thing, Knight.

If you look closely, I haven't really said anything new in years.

judging by your viewpoints, I'd say something around 150 years.

[Knight Templar]

Wow, way to not say a single thing, Knight.

If you look closely, I haven't really said anything new in years.

judging by your viewpoints, I'd say something around 150 years.

Oh snap homie, I hope your GF didn't force you to post that by putting you into a headlock!

[TrashMan]

That's a gross generalization. That's like saying whites are physically weaker and feel more pain than blacks. (@Mobius)

Maybe they are.
Black people apparenlty have the genes to be amazing runners and their muscle mass is rather large in general.

[iamzack]

That's a gross generalization. That's like saying whites are physically weaker and feel more pain than blacks. (@Mobius)

Maybe they are.
Black people apparenlty have the genes to be amazing runners and their muscle mass is rather large in general.

Good job, you don't realize that "black" isn't really a genetic grouping.

[Mobius]

That's a gross generalization. That's like saying whites are physically weaker and feel more pain than blacks. (@Mobius)

No, it isn't a generalization. Females have proved to have inferior resistance to pain - keep in mind that I'm refering to the feeling of pain, not to physical resistance to pain.

You also need to take into account of scientists demonstrated that brains have certain differences that perfectly match the "Man goes hunting, woman stays at home" thing. Each of the two brains has its pros and cons.


About black people - who are you refering to, exactly? There's a pretty cruel way to explain why black people who live in the USA are physically stronger than the average. A few centuries ago, when the British moved thousands of Africans to the US, "forced travel" conditions severely tested the Africans' physical resistance. Many of them died. The ones who survived were physically stronger so, in theory, their heirs are keeping the same features. It's very sad to say this, though.