[Nuclear1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1GrdTakvl8

Well...huh.

[Mr. Vega]

That was just beautiful. No wonder they're so motivated!

[Dilmah G]

I kinda liked the speech I could see where he was coming from.

[iamzack]

I stopped watching about the third time he used "woman" as an insult.

[Liberator]

So you've never yelled "WOMAN!" at a chick who was being/saying something stupid?

[Ford Prefect]

Eh, depends; was she the kind of woman with boobs and a vagina, or the kind with a penis and testicles? 'Cause I think it's that second type in the video, and it turns out we actually call those kinds of women "men."

[Blue Lion]

It's not up for me. Recap?

[iamzack]

So you've never yelled "WOMAN!" at a chick who was being/saying something stupid?

So you're saying "woman" means a person who is stupid?

[Mr. Vega]

I kinda liked the speech I could see where he was coming from.

Or maybe he was just venting his frustration at perfectly innocent and hardworking policemen who's morale isn't exactly helped by his acting like a 16 year-old douchebag. I don't think there's a chapter in West Point textbooks titled "Making it clear to your men that you despise them and that you're an immature, vindictive asshole" last I checked.

[Dilmah G]

Well their loyalty was obviously under question. He was trying to motivate them by means of negative reinforcement of ineffective behavior (being loyal to something rather than your country). Straight out of B.F. Skinner's handbook, something which is the core of combat training in most modern armies.

[Mr. Vega]

Well their loyalty was obviously under question. He was trying to motivate them by means of negative reinforcement of ineffective behavior (being loyal to something rather than your country). Straight out of B.F. Skinner's handbook, something which is the core of combat training in most modern armies.

Or maybe he's just being delusional and lashing out.

[Dilmah G]

We don't know the whole story

[iamzack]

He's still a misogynist douchebag.

[Dilmah G]

No. He is not. He's a soldier, and he's doing what he's being payed to do, which is take orders from the chain of command. Which is what he's doing, he's been ordered to train these police officers, and he has doubts about their loyalty, so he "motivates" them to be loyal to their country. He maintains distinction with him being the leader and the officers being his "class" by forcing compliance upon them, just as he was most likely taught. He probably isn't generally a misogynist, but he has to force these soldiers to comply somehow, and in their society men ARE above women, so what better way to do it?

[iamzack]

You're severely overestimating the intelligence of army soldiers.

[Dilmah G]

I was breaking it down into various influences, you're right, none of that probably went through his mind at the time.

[NGTM-1R]

You're severely overestimating the intelligence of army soldiers.

You're severely underestimating the intelligence of his CO, who would have given him the training assignment.

While it is likely none of what Dilmah G said actually conciously went through his mind at that point, it was mostly like a preconsidered tactic. A DI has to know how to push his recruits' buttons.

[iamzack]

So the CO is the misogynist douchebag?

[NGTM-1R]

So the CO is the misogynist douchebag?

As I said: A DI has to know how to push a recruit's buttons, not in the least because part of the training process is to get them to stop responding readily to any they may have. Misogyny has nothing to do with it. This was a preconsidered tactic chosen based on its cultural effectiveness.

[iamzack]

So the Iraqis are the misogynist douchebags.