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Offline Kolgena

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Maybe a problem, maybe not.
I've seen a bunch of screens where beam weapons light up surrounding ships according to their color. My game doesn't manage to do that. Instead, ships around beams get lit with a white light regardless of beam color. Furthermore, it seems that the orb lighting in the lasers don't work for me either. I'm not sure if this is a problem with my machine or my specs or something else.

Radeon X1600

C:\Program Files\FS\fs2_open_3_6_10r-20090322_r5114.exe -mod mediavps -spec -glow -env -mipmap -nomotiondebris -missile_lighting -normal -3dshockwave -orbradar -ship_choice_3d -3dwarp  -ambient_factor 0 -ogl_spec 30 -spec_exp 20 -spec_point 0.6 -spec_static 1 -spec_tube 0.8

Another thing I noticed (which I assumed to be limitations to the game engine) is that flying by capships or watching beams light them up often results in very "jerky" light changes. One instant, it's pretty bright. Next frame, it's significantly darker. There is no transition brightness between the two levels. For tube lighting, I understand that this is hard to fix, but it's especially annoying when you're flying by the cap ship and it flickers from very bright to sort of dark because of the angle the sun forms with the cap ship in relation to your camera view (at least, I think this is the cause). Does this just happen to me, or is there a fix?

Thanks!

 

Offline captain-custard

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Re: Maybe a problem, maybe not.
im not a specialist at this but there are a few radion problems that are known have a good dig in this forum for radion posts

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,60700.0.html


http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,60548.0.html

"Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together."

 

Offline Kolgena

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Re: Maybe a problem, maybe not.
Thanks. I'll test those drivers later to see if it fixes anything. I'll get back to this thread to say if it worked or not.


Edit 1: err. Stuck it in my root folder and get the following error message upon boot.

The directory <C:blah blah blah/FS/atioglxx.dll> is not a valid windows image. Check the installation booklet and <something>.

Edit 2: updated my driver from 2007 just for kicks to see if it was missing features. Froze in game if I tried to move. Installing a 8.x driver now..

Edit 3: Drivers 8.1->8.6 work. However, they don't show normal maps, which is somewhat odd. The drivers that do show normal maps in the tech room freeze in game (>8.6)

So now I have a dilemma: I system restore to get whatever card I had before and have crappy lighting but a working game with normal maps, or I use 8.6 with rather accurate lighting and no normals.

Edit 4: Hang on. I just found something interesting. The 8.5 driver works in game AND with normal maps. They were just weaker than they were when I had my 2007 driver. So, I have my solution. Any other users with x1600 cards should also try this out if sticking the driver in the freespace folder didn't work for you, or you had to go with -no_glsl

Edit 5: Whoops. Spoke too soon. I was downloading a 7.x atiogl.dll into my root folder and forgot about it there. I realized this after my normal mapped ships started to have the old faulty lighting.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2009, 10:32:44 pm by Kolgena »

 

Offline Kolgena

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Re: Maybe a problem, maybe not.
Started a new thread in Upgrade Project after realizing some things. Request lock.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Maybe a problem, maybe not.
Edit 3: ... The drivers that do show normal maps in the tech room freeze in game (>8.6)
Wrong. It just takes time to open models for the first time. Give it time (up to several minutes, depending on your hardware) and they'll open.

Started a new thread in Upgrade Project after realizing some things. Request lock.
Any particular reason why? Also, this thread could have been moved there.
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Offline Kolgena

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Re: Maybe a problem, maybe not.
Edit 3: ... The drivers that do show normal maps in the tech room freeze in game (>8.6)
Wrong. It just takes time to open models for the first time. Give it time (up to several minutes, depending on your hardware) and they'll open.

Started a new thread in Upgrade Project after realizing some things. Request lock.
Any particular reason why? Also, this thread could have been moved there.

I don't think so. I know for the karnak it took me 30 seconds or so for it to load. However, the Ravanna, Orion, Hecate, Demon, and Hatchesphut should already have been cached. Unless new cache files are made by the game, I don't see why there should be a freeze. Also, weapon load-out freezes also, and that only renders the model of 1 fighter.

And, I started a new thread for clarity sake. I wanted to get the things I found out across in a cleaner manner. You could move this and I could delete the new thread I started if that's how the forums work here (I'm not well versed in forum etiquette), or you could merge the two please.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Maybe a problem, maybe not.
:shrug: You're the boss. Locked. If people have something to add to this topic, please go here.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []