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Offline StarSlayer

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
 :wtf:  Whats a matter with -star?

I'm not changing the Garbage Scowstar's name and thats nonnegotiable.
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Offline Narvi

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Star as a suffix is fine. It just doesn't make sense for fighters to have -star added to the end. Battlestars and basestars are large carriers with guns attached, so they have some commonality. If you're going to add -star to any ship, you'd have things like Raptor missile variants being called Missilestars.

 

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Star as a suffix is fine. It just doesn't make sense for fighters to have -star added to the end. Battlestars and basestars are large carriers with guns attached, so they have some commonality. If you're going to add -star to any ship, you'd have things like Raptor missile variants being called Missilestars.

LOL @ Missilestars.

Whatever the name, the Stealthstar does indeed look pretty awesome.

 
Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
That's just a little nitpicky, Narvi, especially considering they could all be classified as "star"fighters.  Please don't go into some argument about how star is fine as a prefix but not as a suffix :P.

 

Offline Narvi

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Starbattle Galactica?  :nervous:

 
Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Oh well now you're just being difficult.  :lol:

 

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
"Alright, Nuggetstars, listen up. This should be just a routine patrolstar, but anything could happen out there... anything at all. So stay alert, use your brainstar, and keep your trigger fingerstars hot. Reaver will be flying a missilestar nearby, if you need any support. Let's make sure we all come homestar. Battle stationsstar!"

 

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!
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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Nobody Expects the Cylon Inquisition!

"Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to God's Plan, and an immense loadout of conventional and nuclear ordinance!"
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Offline Jangiri

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
the cynicism is aging me. enough with the stars already

 
Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Quote from: StarSlayer
"Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to God's Plan, and an immense loadout of conventional and Number Six ordinance!"
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One last word on the (odd) "star" suffix issue.  How does it make more sense for both Cylons and Colonials to use it as a suffix for their carriers than for one or the other to use it as a designation for one of their fighter classes.

There's no real rhyme or reason, in the 70's it merely sounded sci fi and they went with it.  By all rights you could argue that only the Basestar should be able to designate "star" at the end of the name as it's actually shaped (to a degree) like a star.

Arguing it any further really will just take this thread down the deep corridor that can be anal retention.

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« Last Edit: May 28, 2009, 10:52:50 pm by On_Your_Six »

 

Offline karajorma

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
One last word on the (odd) "star" suffix issue.  How does it make more sense for both Cylons and Colonials to use it as a suffix for their carriers than for one or the other to use it as a designation for one of their fighter classes.

The Cylons were part of the Colonial military at one point.
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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
This is true, but the Colonials only ended up creating the Battlestars as a result of the Cylon betrayal.  
« Last Edit: May 28, 2009, 10:53:29 pm by On_Your_Six »

 
Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
It seems like this is one of those things that won't be able to be explained by logical means, as there was most likely no logic applied in naming the Stealthstar. Invariably, a group of writers was gathered around a table, writing the script, and when they decided to throw in a stealth fighter, someone decided that Stealthstar sounded l33t. You can spend the rest of your life trying to come up with a fluff reason for why it's named that, or you can just accept it, and move on.

Also, it looks cool, so stop picking on it.  :ick:

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Also, it looks cool, so stop picking on it. 

^ This.

On to the more interesting info on this ship.  Is it strictly an unarmed ship?  It appears to have quite an advanced sensor package on it, and there's no KEW muzzles visible from any of the pics I've seen, though this could be a case of maintaining a stealth profile against sensors (providing it sticks to aerospace rules, which it appears to, aside from the composite hull), and therefore have housed weapons in the case of a skirmish.

 

Offline Narvi

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
But it's not cool. That's the problem!

There's no point in packing weapons into a scoutship. The better question is: what is its speed? Did the Colonials really expect to find anything out by sending in a subluminal scout ship past the border? What could the Cylons have had there anyway?

 
Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Your opinion notwistanding, it seems it remains outnumbered on the cool factor.

Maybe there isn't any point in having weapons on a scoutship (nevermind that it's nice having it return intact to relay its findings), but that doesn't change the fact that it may, neither your logic or opinion will change any of the canon details.

Consdering the engines on the back of that thing, I'm willing to bet it's quite a bit faster than the Blackbird.

As for what the Colonials thought they were going to find, I also would have been suspicious of an enemy that had completely upped and disappeared after signing a treaty.  Turns out they were right in their suspicions, the Cylon fleet that was amassed in that time was nothing short of considerable and can hardly be misconstrued as a defense force, no question it was for attack.

Beyond that, as we learn in Razor, William Adama discovered the experimentation that the Cylons were doing on humans in creating hybrids, I would think this also worthy of investigation, should there be any Cylon force hanging around the border in the hopes of capturing more vessels.

Bottom line, there was more than enough reason for suspicion, hence that mission.

 

Offline karajorma

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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Turns out they were right in their suspicions, the Cylon fleet that was amassed in that time was nothing short of considerable and can hardly be misconstrued as a defense force, no question it was for attack.

And the Colonial Fleet of 120 Battlestars was for what? Picking daisies? :p

AFAIK there is no proof whatsoever that the Cylons were planning any kind of attack at all until they discovered that the Colonials had broken the armistice by sending a ship across the line on a spying mission. The Cylon fleet does appear to be much smaller than the Colonial one and we've got no idea whether its only purpose originally was defensive.

In fact there are indications that the Colonials actually wanted to restart the war and even that the mission might have been meant as a deliberate provocation designed to lead to a Cylon attack that could be used as the reasoning for a second Cylon war.
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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
We'll find out more on the cylon side in 'The Plan'
Or something.
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Re: Did you guys get the StealthStar yet?
Also, it looks cool, so stop picking on it. 

^ This.

On to the more interesting info on this ship.  Is it strictly an unarmed ship?  It appears to have quite an advanced sensor package on it, and there's no KEW muzzles visible from any of the pics I've seen, though this could be a case of maintaining a stealth profile against sensors (providing it sticks to aerospace rules, which it appears to, aside from the composite hull), and therefore have housed weapons in the case of a skirmish.
The F22 and F35 look clean from the outside in order to preserve their low radar signatures, but they have ampple internal weapons storage for missiles, bomb and an internally mounted MA61 Vulcan, with doors closing over the barrels.  Even the 1960's Blackburn Buccaneer had an internal, reveolving weapons bay to reduce drag.  Just because you can't see the armament, don't assume they're not there.