[haloboy100]

I thought it's already been decided that the distances in between the systems in that map were no way in any proportion to how far they were from each other in real life...

[Dragon]

I think this map might have been made to look clear ,because the distances doesen't really matter ,they positioned the systems in layout that allows easy orientation ,for example Shivan systems are all in one corner ,just because you may want to find a Shivan system and with this layout you don't need to worry about looking over entire sheet and checking each red globe ,but you only need to check one corner ,which is much faster.
Also ,you can display this corner on tactical screen in briefing room ,so all pilots would be able to read the system names and clearly see briefing icons,unlike the situation in which you have to show entire map ,and Shivan movement from one of their systems to another ,ending up with icons that are so small ,so pilots cannot see difference between convoy and battle fleet.
Not to mention the connections on relistically layouted map would look like spider's web ,being difficult to tell which one is which.
On a side note ,has anyone ever made a nodemap with all non-canon systems
(at least from most popular campaigns).

[ssmit132]

Although it is possible to contract the distances but still show a semi-realistic layout of the systems, like the London Underground map.

[Galemp]

If you want something truly diagrammatic, I made this. I think Volition's is more aesthetically pleasing though.



I have several variants showing the factions' locations during the wars, too, if you'd like them.

[Scotty]

I like that one better.  It gives more of a strategic sense of what systems can allow access to what other systems.

[Blue Lion]

I see different colors for systems yet no systems of those colors 

[headdie]

I think Galemp's map would be a good civilian/navigation version, it shows what could easily be described as trade routs along the strait lines, where as the original makes for a good cinematic representation for the gamer and shows the battle lines.

The problem with any star map is scale, I would presume that slowly the Terrans and Vasudens would keep expanding slowly and eventually you will get to a point where it would be impossible to clearly display it all

Another thing think about. FS1 mission 1.  Alpha is defending the Orff in Betelgeuse system, how come there are two factions fighting in the system (look at the node map very carefully before answering) (for those who cant find it look between Delta Serp, Ross 128 and Beta Cygni)

[Lucika]

I think Galemp's map would be a good civilian/navigation version, it shows what could easily be described as trade routs along the strait lines, where as the original makes for a good cinematic representation for the gamer and shows the battle lines.

The problem with any star map is scale, I would presume that slowly the Terrans and Vasudens would keep expanding slowly and eventually you will get to a point where it would be impossible to clearly display it all

Another thing think about. FS1 mission 1.  Alpha is defending the Orff in Betelgeuse system, how come there are two factions fighting in the system (look at the node map very carefully before answering) (for those who cant find it look between Delta Serp, Ross 128 and Beta Cygni)

Tip 1): Faction A holds it and B invades it.
Tip 2): The system is uncontested. (if this word means what I think, aka. both Terrans and Vasudans have forces in it and it isn't clear who is better)

[karajorma]

We had this huge debate about this once and concluded the lengths of the bars between systems do not represent real-world distances.

Trashman argued that they did, and that all the star systems had been renamed. That's Trashman for ya.

Linky please.

[Blue Lion]

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,51146.msg1034801.html#msg1034801

That's the best I can find so far. Not sure if it's the one he means. Note you posted right after him

[General Battuta]

It is not that one...man, it was near the beginning of my time here. Let me look.

[Blue Lion]

Oh well, I'll keep looking too.

[General Battuta]

Got it! Check out this page...

Here.

[NGTM-1R]

I swear I posted more than once in that thread...

[Vrets]

I'm resurrecting this year-old thread. I like where the discussion leaves off. Think of this thread as an aged wine or cheese, rather than a disinterred corpse.

Droid's got it. Physical distance is meaningless in comparison to extradimensional weirdness distance, because that's how you travel.

This is interesting because it implies the possibility of Shivan-controlled systems just a few light years from the GTVA; on a 2D plane, one could say that there are Shivans in the crevices 'between' GTVA systems. Perhaps the 3rd Knossos in the binary system is only 1-2 jumps from Ross 128.

[Colonol Dekker]

Contested means there's a "contest" or "conflict." for a system. Uncontested means there isn't.

[TrashMan]

We had this huge debate about this once and concluded the lengths of the bars between systems do not represent real-world distances.

Trashman argued that they did, and that all the star systems had been renamed. That's Trashman for ya.

You mean that one debate where I was completely right and you were completely wrong? You'll have to narrow it down for me...a lot.

And b.t.w. - I never argued that.

[General Battuta]

Let's just let it slide. Long time back, pardner.

[headdie]

can i just mention we are bringing up points made over a year ago judging by the dates on the quotes and on a subject with little or no canon data so fall back on the old line of What Ever Suits Your Campaign and leave it?????

[terran_emperor]

I agree with headdie

but i have this to say:

Contested means there's a "contest" or "conflict." for a system. Uncontested means there isn't.

An uncontested system would any one of the following:

1) Uninhabited
2) Occupied by a single government
3) A system with a dual governing body - ie Humans and Zods share it...