[FUBAR-BDHR]

Well it seems that unlike the other TBP ships the Warlock class has not only names but numbers as well.  So far I've only been able to find the Banshee and I'm not sure if that is even canon.  The Hyperion is even worse and not only has a name and number but some sort of code and possibly another marking under the EA logo. 

So the first question is is the Hyperion even worth trying to do nameplates for? 
Second do the numbers change from ship to ship or are they like the letters on the bottom of the Nova?  I've seen 21 and 24 for on Hyperions but again I can't confirm those.
Next is does anyone have any more detailed info on the Warlock and any canon names/numbers?

[Vidmaster]

The Hyperion got this blue text-like nameplate right? Not fancy at all. Me thinking it's unnecessary.

[VERTi60]

Other space sims such as Celestia use numbers and some blurred text for hyperion as seen in this pic



Here's the one with 21:



As for the warlock they have nameplates on their front sides, no visible numbers. EA logo at sides closer to the mid of the hull.

There are letters on the right side and numbers on the left side of the logo. I though the letters could indicate a warlock class, but I think the numbers could indicate the serial number afterall, since only 100 Warlock class ships were scheduled by EA force (Sources have indicated that the Earth Alliance is planning to build well over a hundred of Warlock class ships, considering the price of these ships are over fifty billion credits per ship)

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Well on the Warlock those are numbers on the side of the EA logo.

That's about 6 different Hyperion layouts I've seen now.  About the only constant thing is the number on the side but half are always 21 no matter what the name is.  I've also seen the name on the nose and above the logo.  Hyperion there instead and the name near the EA logo.  Serial letters/number on the top sides (something like xxx-xxxxx but I could never see them clearly) Then there is something below the EA logo that I can never read in any of them.  Could be a second copy of the serial number.

One thing that could make some sense is that the 21/24/15 on the Hyperions and the 42 on the Warlock are version numbers.  Like all 24's came off the same assembly line.  If there were 10000 ships in the fleet 2 digit numbers wouldn't cut it.

[Slasher]

Next is does anyone have any more detailed info on the Warlock and any canon names/numbers?

The Foxfire is mentioned by name in the Crusade ep "Each Night I Dream of Home" but the two camera shots we get don't show the registry number.

[tyboo]

aus Wikipedia Warlock Class

 EAS Titans: The prototype commanded by Susan Ivanova. She took command of the ship right after the ending of the Earth Civil War
 EAS Enchantress: One of the first three mass-production ships, along with "Sorcerer" and "Necromancer", never seen on-screen
 EAS Necromancer: One of the first three mass-production ships, along with "Sorcerer" and "Enchantress", never seen on-screen
 EAS Sorcerer: One of the first three mass-production ships, along with "Necromancer" and "Enchantress", never seen on-screen


but unfortunately no numbers

[FUBAR-BDHR]

As far as the Warlock goes if we can't find any canon reference to what the numbers are or mean then we should come up with some kind of standard.  Either use the same number for all of them or for the base ones. Something like the Prototypes are X, first generation X+1, etc.  Like I said there are way too many for 2 digit numbers so they can't be a specific ship number. 

I really doubt I'll be doing anything with the Hyperion at least for now.  It would still be nice to know the info though just in case. 

That pretty much covers it for ships that had nameplates in all the references I could find.  I think the ISA Victory class did but that is way out of my league and I'm not even thinking of touching that. 

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Yea that's the reference I was using.  I left the EAS off the name and there are actually 2 letters WL so it's WL logo 42. 

The 42 being the number of the ship doesn't make sense unless it is for a totally different purpose then on the Hyperion.  I mean the EA fleet was over 10,000 ships so you think there would be quite a few more then 100 Hyperions.   That and at least 2 ships have the same number.  So I'm reluctant to say each Warlock has a unique number.  Also it's common to use 01 for 1 in these numbering schemes so if there were more then 100 scheduled to be built the number would most likely be 042 instead of just 42. 

Nice find on the Hyperion pics. 

[VERTi60]

It's actually 24, but let's assume that  the letter WL sign can mean WarLock? I've seen other ones too like VE or VR on some fan made ones but I guess we could just save our efforts and place WL all warlocks plates.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Well there we go again.  The Banshee has 42 and the other one has 24.  Unless that is some kind of glitch and was typed backward on one side.  Although I was thinking the same thing about the Hyperion 21/24 until I saw that 15

[VERTi60]

Here's a quick shot I took from the movie "in the begining". The first contact of Minbari and Humans showed a good pic of Hyperion cruiser Prometheus and it's nameplate. Looks like there's another serial number under the logo:



Celestia version of hyperion got it blurred so they can use the same texture on each hyperion class.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

I was thinking that might be a second copy of the serial.  Now it looks like we have some hard evidence.  Name and serial on both the top and sides make sense.  The number is still a mystery. 

[VERTi60]

Here's a nice screen from I've Found Her (IFH)



Notice that the serial number contains 21.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Well that just about every ship having 21 on the side.  The other ones I've seen could easily have been misinterpreted as 24 from the angle.  The 15 is a mystery.  Pretty sure the 21 in the serial is a coincidence.  Now if it was -21 then I would agree.

Still the Hyperion isn't in the works right now and all this is pretty much to figure out the Warlock.  24?  42? Variable numbers?  That's the real question.

These shots will help out a lot if we ever do the Hyperion though.

[den5]

Next is does anyone have any more detailed info on the Warlock and any canon names/numbers?

Maybe Tim Earls will help with this. Btw his Warlock from Crusade.
http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1398
http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=104600&postcount=82

[Ker.Soth]

Hey just stumbled on this thread. I dont really have anything cannon to add, just an idea about hyperions though. Military and especially airforce do use numeric codes to signify version asigned base etc on airplanes. Maybe the Babylon creators drew from there to make a sort of code for hyperions.

Imaginary example:

for a ship with the numeric code 24/21/15 it could be that
24 is the upgrade version so it's a Mark 2.4 hyperion basically making it a midwinter with 0.4 bits added to it,
21 could be the fleet and battlegroup hence 2nd fleet 1st battlegroup and
15 the number of hyperions in the battlegroup, with the specific being the 15th.

That could explain why all hyperions have the same number on the side, if it's not a ship number but a model version and why they use apparently small numbers for a 10000 ship fleet.

That could in theory also explain, if somebody streches it A LOT, the numbers on the Warlocks. They were made to be C&C vessels so it could be that:

42=42nd fleet or 4rth fleet 2nd battlegroup
24=24th fleet or 2nd fleet 4rth battlegroup

Or something like that that doenst really have to do with what the ship is but where it belongs. That's all creative explanation ofcourse but it did inspire me to make up my own coding system for the missions i'm making, just do add a lil bit of spice to the EA fleet. Reading EA Aurora everytime you lock somebody does get a bit boring imo

[-Norbert-]

Maybe you should just use 15 for the Hyperion and 21 or 24 for the Midwinter....