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Offline -Norbert-

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Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
I have the following problem.
In FS_Port with MediaVPs everything is showing up fine in the latest version, only the Apollo and the Valkyrie aren't.

Now the strange thing is, if I play Silent Threat Reborn with MediaVPs I get shiny new models for both fighters.
Is there something wrong with my install?

And if not, which files do I have to get out of the STR VPs and over into my FS_Port data-folder to get the new models and textures there too?

I attached a picture made of two screenshots out of the techroom. Left is the FS_Port+MediaVP Valk and to the right the Silent Threat Reborn+MediaVP one.

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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
Are you using the FSPort MediaVPs and are they mentioned in your FSPort mod.ini?

That's probably the issue.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
I'd do it like this:
- select fsport-mediavps as mod
- make sure that \fsport-mediavps\ has a mod.ini, which has the "secondarylist" line pointing to "fsport,mediavps".
- ????
- PROFIT
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
Perhaps it helps: I have it as following on my harddrive:
All the vp files with exception of the mv_fsport.vp are in the FS_Port folder.
I also have a 2nd folder called FS_Port_Mediavp which contains the mv_fsport and a mod.ini in which FS_Port is in primarylist and MediaVP secondarylist.
That 2nd folder is the one I select as Mod in the Launcher.

When I do it like Jeff Vader suggested, with both FS_Port and MediaVPs in secondarylist, I get the new model for Valkyrie and Apollo, but without glowmaps and cockpits.
And all the other ships look like vanilla FS2 models.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2009, 01:04:41 pm by -Norbert- »

 

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
Make sure that your folders are named as they are in your mod.ini. ;)
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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
They are. To make sure I even copy/pasted the names from the folders to the mod.ini

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
fs2_open.log?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
Untill recently I played with the Nightly Build 4989, but I just tried it with 3610 RC 3, without any change.
The Log is from the 3610 RC3 debug exe.

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
Lightspeed's nebula pack is included in the mvps, and not needed anymore.
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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
I just found a way to make the two fighters work right.... guess it's kind of a workaround.

I created a new folder that only has the following mod.ini in it:

Code: [Select]
[launcher]
modname      = FS Port + Media VP Experiment;
image255x112 = ;
infotext     = ;
website      = ;
forum        = ;

[multimod]
primarylist = FS_Port_Mediavp;
secondarylist = FS_Port,MediaVP3610;

I have no idea why this works (or why it didn't work before), but at least I get the shiny new versions now....

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
You'll notice, that
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Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\FS_Port\FS1OGGcutscenepack.vp' with a checksum of 0x6b9172f7
Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\FS_Port\fsport-missions.vp' with a checksum of 0x0ae28029
Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\FS_Port\fsport3_1_1.vp' with a checksum of 0x1d2c40f2
Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\FS_Port\sparky_hi_fs1.vp' with a checksum of 0x367ba125
Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\FS_Port\stu_fs1.vp' with a checksum of 0xf74f0afe
Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\FS_Port\tango_fs1.vp' with a checksum of 0x98f0f4cd
Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\FS_Port\warble_fs1.vp' with a checksum of 0x49c6c98d
Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\FS_Port_Mediavp\mv_fsport.vp' with a checksum of 0xdc8abbde
Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\MediaVP3610\MV_Complete.vp' with a checksum of 0x31df7754
Found root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\MediaVP3610\mv_music.vp' with a checksum of 0xbbd92e16
according to the log, your mod folders were loaded in the wrong order: the correct order still is FSPort MediaVPs, FSPort, MediaVPs. Yours was FSPort, FSPort MediaVPs, MediaVPs. What you've done now with the new folder achieves this and apparently works, but it is still... wrong.

As The E mentioned, you don't need LightspeedFS2.vp anymore. And even if you did, it wouldn't belong in the \freespace2\ folder; the correct place would be \freespace2\mediavps\.

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Searching root pack 'D:\Spiele\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 1777 filesYour stu_fs2.vp is broken; it should contain 2355 files.

Also, your mod folder names are rather complicated and unconventional. Most people have their MediaVPs in a folder called "mediavps", FSPort in "fsport" and FSPort MediaVPs in "fsport_mediavps". Not that the names matter much, but you'll just have to configure your own mod.inis, because the majority of mods assume that the folder names are what I mentioned and the mod.inis supplied with them have been made accordingly.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
I called the 3610 folder that way because I still have another folder with the 368 mediavps in case some older mod has problems with the new MediaVPs (for that case I also kept a 3.6.9 build on my drive).

And the stu_fs2.vp isn't broken. I have the german verison of the game. In that only the ingame lines and the command briefings have voice. The normal briefings and the debriefings don't, which accounts for the lower number of files in it.

You say they are loaded in the wrong order, but how can I change that?
When I tried to put both the FS_Port and the MediaVPs into secondary, the game only loaded the new models of the Apollo and Valk (without glowmaps and cockpits) but all the other models were plain vanilla FS2 ones, as I mentioned before.

 

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
I called the 3610 folder that way because I still have another folder with the 368 mediavps in case some older mod has problems with the new MediaVPs (for that case I also kept a 3.6.9 build on my drive).

NOT a good idea. There have been very few issues with the new mvps, and none at all in recent weeks. Keeping the 368s around is just going to confuse things. Plus, campaign/mod designers do rely on the standard folder/mod names for their mod.inis, as well as our attempts to troubleshoot borked installs. We really do prefer people to have a uniform folder layout.

To fix your problem, you need to edit your FSPort mod.ini by adding the following line after [multimod]
primarylist = FS_Port_Mediavp;

and deleting the FS_Port_Mediavp entry from the secondarylist.

Please note that all of this could have been avoided if you had stuck to the normal folder names, and just selected the fsport-mediavps as a mod....
« Last Edit: July 03, 2009, 10:35:03 am by The E »
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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
Quote
Keeping the 368s around is just going to confuse things.
Why? I keep them in a seperate folder. Unless I put that folder into a mod.ini, it won't ever be looked at right?

OMG *facepalm*
I just found out from were all my trouble came from....
Little cause, big problem. I had it like this "secondarylist = FS_Port, MediaVP3610" and that stupid little blank space between the comma and the mediavp srewed everything up.
Once the blank space after the comma is gone, everything works perfectly.

Thanks for the help to you all and sorry for wasting your time just because of a single blank space...

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
sorry for wasting your time just because of a single blank space...
Is it such a waste of time if you learnt something in the process?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
I guess not, but it's still annoying go through all this just because of a single blank space :nod:

 

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
dey shud fix dat.
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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
Alright, I finally give up after a  :mad: and :hopping: -inclusive rage session. I apologize for bumping a near-month old topic but I'm having the opposite problem that the original topic poster had: when I'm playing Silent Threat: Reborn, the Apollo, Valkyrie, Angel, Athena, Dragon, and Karnak models aren't upgraded but when I'm playing the FSPort (via selecting the MediaVPs folder as the mod) they work fine (other than the Angel which I cannot test because it's not in the FSPort tech room).

I'm using FSOpen 3.6.10 with the 3.6.10 MediaVPs. FSPort 3.1.1 with MediaVPs 3.1.1.

My folder setup's like this, pretty self-explanatory:
fsport
fsport-mediavps
fsport-str

And the mod.ini multimods's go like this

fsport:
[multimod]
primarylist  = fsport_mediavps;
secondarylist = ,mediavps;

fsport-mediavps:
secondarylist = fsport,mediavps;

fsport-str:
secondarylist = fsport,mediavps;

I've tried a loooooooooooootta different changes to the fsport-str mod.ini that I can't remember exactly, but I just know I'm missing something exceedingly simple because when I switch to the fsport-mediavps folder as the mod the above mentioned models show up perfectly shiny and upgraded. Now that I've calmed down it's pure :confused: . Someone help? =(

 

Offline The E

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
if all that info is correct, you need to rename the fsport-mediavps folder to fsport_mediavps.

The secondarylist for str should read:
secondarylist = fsport_mediavps,fsport,mediavps;
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I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Apollo and Vaklyrie problems
Uh, actually
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primarylist = fsport_mediavps;
secondarylist = fsport,mediavps;
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []