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Offline Snail

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Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
Currently, bitmaps are rendered in the order they are given. Thus, if I have a planet first and a nebula second, the nebula will be rendered on top of the planet, which looks daft. This is extremely frustrating, especially if I've decided to add a few more nebulae in a certain area after I've already added the planets.

What I'm requesting is the ability to move each bitmap entry up or down slots. Thus, with the planet, I could just move it down a few places so that it comes after the nebulae, thus being rendered on top of them.

Don't hurt me.


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And another very quick request: Can we have an "indicator" that easily allows us to check whether or not we have 'Control Object' mode on (the thing you get when you press "T", it allows you to use the movement keys to move the currently selected object(s)), it's sometimes kind of annoying when you've just got everything set up correctly, then you want to zoom out and mess everything up by moving some ship 1000 meters backward. Possible indicators for movement and rotation speeds would also be helpful...
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
it's a good idea, hope it can be done... I myself have been a victim of precedence on bitmaps.
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
Can't you do this via notepad editing?

 

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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
You can, obviously, but not having to do that would be good.
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
Can't you do this via notepad editing?
Well, yeah, but in the same way you can set Star Backgrounds to 0 in Notepad but not in FRED. It'd make everyone's life much easier.

 

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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
You can set them to 0 in FRED. :p
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
Can't you do this via notepad editing?
Well, yeah, but in the same way you can set Star Backgrounds to 0 in Notepad but not in FRED. It'd make everyone's life much easier.
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
Honestly - if you are willing to use FRED, then you should be willing to use notepad. ;)
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
Yes, you and I know how to do it in notepad, but I remember for years not knowing that. If it's easy enough to implement, it'd be nice for newbie FREDders.
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
It's actually likely to be a bit of a pain to implement cause of the rather horrible way FRED works. I've been meaning to do this sort of thing for ages but it's not urgent so it's the sort of thing that tends to have to wait until I'm bored with little else to do. (ETA for next time I have one of those moments is sometime next year. :p)
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
You can set them to 0 in FRED. :p
Only because it was implemented in, like 3.6.9. Before that, we would have to do it in Notepad.

 

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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
I know, but

1) I don't want people thinking you still can't
2) That change took less than a minute to implement. This one would take quite a bit longer.
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
I know, but

1) I don't want people thinking you still can't
2) That change took less than a minute to implement. This one would take quite a bit longer.

Not to mention all kind of errors it might lead to. (Has anybody tried moving sexps around in FRED  :rolleyes:)
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
Yeah, it's awful. Never change event order if you can help it.

 

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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
That's where notepad (or rather notepad++) comes in handy. ;)
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
I doubt it's quite as nasty as that one. But it's still something I don't want to be bothering with at the moment.
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
That's where notepad (or rather notepad++) comes in handy. ;)
I use Linux Gedit. Thoustand times better than any Windows software :P And you can still use it on Windows. And there's also very good KWrite ;)
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Gedit is not much better than Notepad++, in fact I've used them both and I think Notepad++ is superior to Gedit.  Gedit is still fairly powerful though.
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
I doubt it's quite as nasty as that one. But it's still something I don't want to be bothering with at the moment.

I am merely pointing out, that it's worth the trouble to use Notepad for FS2 missions editing. ;)
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Re: Feature Request: Background Bitmaps Precedence
Nice idea. I also would like to see it get done.