[Colonol Dekker]

EA GAMES, CHALLENGE ruin   EVERYTHING

[Liberator]

So I tried the beta...without revealing anything and just offering my opinion.

It's bad....completely unlike anything prior in the series.

One should at least be able to make a showing in a 1v1 having played everything but generals prior to this entry.  I lasted all of 2 min.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

someone should shoot those dimwits,
especially the annoying first one who's unable to take of his hat when speaking to the world.

[Liberator]

Don't post when you're drunk?

Also, I am in no way saying taht this game isn't fun, far from it, but it's NOT C&C.

[SpardaSon21]

I think the Tiberium Control Network is a stupid idea.  Here's my take on how the C&C series should end.

Tiberium has spread even farther than it has in C&C3, and the world is 50% Yellow Zone, and 50% Red Zone.  Nod and GDI are busy fighting each other in a desperate battle for the last few places in Earth capable of supporting human life.  Both sides are near the end of their rope, and then the Scrin come, kill everyone, and then harvest the Earth for its Ichor.

[Liberator]

This

[TrashMan]

We need to go back to that C&C1 feel. It had the best atmosphere and design.

I'd kill for a C&C1 re-done in C&C3 engine.

[ShadowGorrath]

You mean something like this?

[TrashMan]

 

[IceFire]

I was hoping the next game would be a new entry in the Generals series but no luck.  I hope they go away and spend some serious time upgrading the engine so that the units look awesome, the terrain looks amazing, and the strategy is really well thought out.  I don't demand revolutionary in RTS... just refinement and polish. C&C4 doesn't seem to do much of anything right... a little bit revolutionary absolutely and I do like the idea of ongoing battles in MP.  But it isn't right yet and nonething else looks good.

The UI design is horrible... it's hard to see anything for all of the glitz.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

I think the Tiberium Control Network is a stupid idea.  Here's my take on how the C&C series should end.

Tiberium has spread even farther than it has in C&C3, and the world is 50% Yellow Zone, and 50% Red Zone.  Nod and GDI are busy fighting each other in a desperate battle for the last few places in Earth capable of supporting human life.  Both sides are near the end of their rope, and then the Scrin come, kill everyone, and then harvest the Earth for its Ichor.

weren't they expanding the blue zones at the start of C&C3? Meaning that, theoretically, they had the means to control Tiberium.

[Liberator]

If Tiberium is under control, why is the planetary biosphere on the edge of collapse and whole cities overcome by it?  I mean that was the crux of the plot when they announced it, that the reason Kane approaches GDI at all is because if he didn't they'd all be dead in 5 years?

[General Battuta]

The opening cutscene you're thinking of occurs before the TCN is established. Tiberium is out of control, cities are being overrun, then Kane approaches GDI and suggests the TCN.

[NGTM-1R]

If Tiberium is under control, why is the planetary biosphere on the edge of collapse and whole cities overcome by it?

Because EA is composed of idiots. C&C3 made it clear that GDI had developed the means to control Tiberium and it's explicitly missioned in briefings for several of the missions fought against the Scrin that the German Blue Zone was actually reclaimed from a Yellow. The battle wasn't over but C&C3 makes it clear that GDI had the tools to win it, given time.

[Liberator]

You are right.  However, the Scrin usually don't claim one of their "farms" until something like 75% of the mass of the planet has been converted into Tiberium, so I still don't understand how reclaiming the surface does anything at all about the roots that decend probably hundreds of miles into the planet at the original impact site.  Unless they've made they're peace with living on a planet with a tiberium core.

[IceFire]

A piece of fiction suggested that GDI's sonic research which was the technology mentioned in C&C3 that allowed them to limit the spread of Tiberium stopped working at some point. It has been said several times that Tiberium itself changes as the terraforming process continues.

It's a shame that they dropped the tiberium issue partially... particularly from the gameplay.  It is totally nefarious actually.  A precious resource that is incredibly deadly.

[Colonol Dekker]

One of my favourite things to do in tibsun lan games was set my barracks rally point just inside my  brothers tiberium patch and send a steady stream of cheap gunners. Eventually forming an army of blobs.
 
 
He hated blobs.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

You are right.  However, the Scrin usually don't claim one of their "farms" until something like 75% of the mass of the planet has been converted into Tiberium, so I still don't understand how reclaiming the surface does anything at all about the roots that decend probably hundreds of miles into the planet at the original impact site.  Unless they've made they're peace with living on a planet with a tiberium core.

the scrin were tricked by the liquid tib explosion at Temple Prime in Bosnia.

[Liberator]

I am aware of this.  My comment was directed at the obvious failure in logic that says because it's clean and pretty on the outside means it's clean and pretty on the inside.  In the case of a Tiberium infested Earth, it follows that Tiberium over time changes all matter into more Tiberium.  Therefore, even if the surface of the planet was recovered and partially restored to habitabliity, the Tiberium chain reaction is still occuring in the rock and mineral further beneath where the restoration reaches.  Remember, it is many thousands of miles between your feet and the center of the planet.

[General Battuta]

I'd never thought about that. Cool stuff, Lib.