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Offline Macfie

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Support ships have no engine glows
on: July 16, 2009, 11:17:01 am
I've noted a problem with all the support ships.  They have no engine glows.  I've seen it with the 3.6.10 RC3 and with the nightly builds.  It doesn't matter what mod I'm using or which support ship.  These appear to be the only ships affected.  I mantised it.  Issue 234.  At first I thought it was a model problem but it would appear to be something in the source code.  Has anyone else had this problem?  I'm using an Nvidia G120 card on a quad 4 processor with windows vista.
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Offline xXGrifterXx

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #1 on: July 17, 2009, 10:47:56 am
I can confirm this. I thought it was mod specific so I didn't really take note, but I just went through a training mission in retail and the support ship didn't have any.
EDIT: When I said retail I meant mediavps.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2009, 02:42:42 pm by xXGrifterXx »
 

Offline karajorma

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 12:08:44 pm
This happens with both media VPs, FS1 Port and Retail?

If someone can confirm all three then it's definitely code.
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Offline Macfie

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 02:29:43 pm
It definitely happens with media VPs and the port.  I don't know if I can run retail any more but I'll check.
Normal people believe that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it isn't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers is:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons.  Civil Engineers build targets
An optimist sees the glass half full; the pessimist sees it half empty. An engineer sees that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

Offline karajorma

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #4 on: July 17, 2009, 02:56:51 pm
I simply meant with retail data, i.e with No Mods.
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Offline xXGrifterXx

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #5 on: July 17, 2009, 03:05:46 pm
Retail has engine glows.
 

Offline Macfie

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #6 on: July 17, 2009, 03:19:07 pm
I actually ran retail as well as no mods and both have engine glows for the support ships.
Normal people believe that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it isn't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers is:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons.  Civil Engineers build targets
An optimist sees the glass half full; the pessimist sees it half empty. An engineer sees that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

Offline karajorma

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 04:20:29 pm
Then someone has buggered up the media VP models and this isn't a code error.

I'll send this over to the FSUP forum.
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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #8 on: July 17, 2009, 05:08:25 pm
noted.
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Offline Dragon

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #9 on: July 17, 2009, 05:19:20 pm
Solved.
It apperantly was caused by thruster glows not being assigned to subsystem.
I have fixed it in less than minute.

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Offline Macfie

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #10 on: July 17, 2009, 11:20:30 pm
Could you do the FS1 support also?
Normal people believe that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it isn't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers is:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons.  Civil Engineers build targets
An optimist sees the glass half full; the pessimist sees it half empty. An engineer sees that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

Offline xXGrifterXx

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #11 on: July 18, 2009, 02:08:43 am
Where do these files go? I have no clue...
 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #12 on: July 18, 2009, 02:16:59 am
.pof == model, so \freespace2\mediavps\data\models . Create the directory when necessary.
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #13 on: July 18, 2009, 02:24:01 am
On a semi-related note, does anyone know why with the mvps selected, support ships don't send the messages they usually do ("Rearming complete sir, you're good to go!")?
 

Offline xXGrifterXx

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #14 on: July 18, 2009, 02:56:16 am
Quote from: Jeff Vader on July 18, 2009, 02:16:59 am
.pof == model, so \freespace2\mediavps\data\models . Create the directory when necessary.

Hmmm. I did exactly as you said, yet the results are the same in the first mission of the regular fs2 campaign. Is anyone else still having problems or is just me?

Actually I played some missions in Derelict and it seems to be working, so maybe its just that particular mission mentioned above.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2009, 04:34:50 am by xXGrifterXx »
 

Offline Macfie

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #15 on: July 18, 2009, 08:16:10 am
I put the files in the model folders and tried it but still no engine glows.  Tried the media VPs and several mods but no engine glows.
Normal people believe that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it isn't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers is:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons.  Civil Engineers build targets
An optimist sees the glass half full; the pessimist sees it half empty. An engineer sees that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 

Offline Commander Zane

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #16 on: July 18, 2009, 08:39:15 am
Worked for me.
 

Offline xXGrifterXx

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #17 on: July 18, 2009, 09:42:24 am
Well I can confirm it is not working in the first and second mission of the fs2 campaign. I'll check a little bit more but there seems to be a problem.
 

Offline xXGrifterXx

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #18 on: July 18, 2009, 10:05:01 am
Quote from: Macfie on July 18, 2009, 08:16:10 am
I put the files in the model folders and tried it but still no engine glows.  Tried the media VPs and several mods but no engine glows.

The mission in Derelict had the support ships transporting maras to the arcadia station, so they were already there and I didn't have to call them in. Those had engine glows. The following mission I called the support ship in and it didn't have any, so its not working for me either.

What's weird is if you hit F3 from main hall and pick the Hygeia then hit render options and check "show thrusters" it works. Maybe it doesn't work in missions where you call it in. I'm only guessing so who knows.
 

Offline Macfie

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Re: Support ships have no engine glows
Reply #19 on: July 18, 2009, 11:56:20 am
Wasn't there a similar problem in some of the previous 3.6.10 builds where any ship that warped in after the mission start had no thrusters?
Normal people believe that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it isn't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers is:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons.  Civil Engineers build targets
An optimist sees the glass half full; the pessimist sees it half empty. An engineer sees that the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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