[iamzack]

I don't really know much about guns or gun control laws. I'd say selling anything dangerous without the applicable license is highly irresponsible and bad. So I would be pretty annoyed if the ACORN rep didn't advise coming up with a different way to make money. I certainly wouldn't freak the **** out, though.

Also, just because I change my judgment based on the specific crime being committed in this hypothetical situation doesn't make me a hypocrite. What would make me a hypocrite would freaking out about prostitution and then picking up a hooker.

[Scotty]

try this imagine they were selling ammo for banned assault rifles without a license and that was their only source of income.

I wasn't aware the ammo was banned.

[NGTM-1R]

It isn't.

You can buy all the 5.56 or 7.62 you want.

[Bobboau]

I'm sure there is some sort of ammo isn't banned, and that was just a hypothetical to take her political bias out of the equation.

[Scotty]

Good to know I'm not too far out of the loop.  

At any rate, I don't see why prostitution is really illegal.  Their body, their choice (to an extent.  I'll think up that extent later.  Too tired now).

[Solatar]

We're not discussing whether or not it SHOULD be illegal, we're discussing the fact that it IS illegal. If some government sponsored group sold me marijuana, would you be defending them by saying "well, it really shouldn't be illegal anyway...".

[Scotty]

Would you like the smart-ass or non-smart-ass answer?

smart-ass:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis

non-smart-ass:  No.  My feelings on the matter are irrelevant.

EDIT:  Does that link work?  It's not coming up for me.

[maje]

Not only is this repugnant, but it's worse due to the fact that ACORN was willing to assist the 'prostitute' and 'pimp' run a child sex trafficking ring bringing under-age El Salvadorian girls illegally.

[NGTM-1R]

Not only is this repugnant, but it's worse due to the fact that ACORN was willing to assist the 'prostitute' and 'pimp' run a child sex trafficking ring bringing under-age El Salvadorian girls illegally.

I have yet to see any evidence of the truth of this statement.

[Topgun]

I heard the sound-byte, I might not be able to find it, but yeah, they said that they where bringing underage girls from El Salvador. the acorn lady said that the can count them as deductibles.

[mxlm]

Count them as dependents, actually. But then, since we have another ACORN worker on camera saying "I killed my husband", when it turns out that no, no she did not actually kill her husband(s) and was just screwing with the posers since they were so transparent, that's not out of the question in the case of the Salvadoreans, either. Even if she was being since in not having a problem with sex slavery, well, that's a couple employees. Why you would take them as representative, and not the offices where the posers were kicked out, I don't know.

[Bobboau]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UOL9Jh61S8

[Topgun]

Count them as dependents,

that's what I meant, I fail lol.

[maje]

Not only is this repugnant, but it's worse due to the fact that ACORN was willing to assist the 'prostitute' and 'pimp' run a child sex trafficking ring bringing under-age El Salvadorian girls illegally.

I have yet to see any evidence of the truth of this statement.

It should be noted that ACORN also has fired the two employees seen in the link Bobbau has posted.

[iamzack]

To be perfectly honest, I would have done exactly the same as these employees if only because these two were clearly not even close to who/what they said they were. But then I'm a jackass, so whatever.

[NGTM-1R]

I still have yet to see any truth to it. The phraseology is ambigous. (And the people presenting it painfully obviously lying.) Child prostitution is so far outside the normal sort of activity that you would have to be pretty direct, or pre-prepared by the Youtube blurb, to draw the inference, much less if you were working in the office of a legal organization.

[maje]

I still have yet to see any truth to it. The phraseology is ambigous. (And the people presenting it painfully obviously lying.) Child prostitution is so far outside the normal sort of activity that you would have to be pretty direct, or pre-prepared by the Youtube blurb, to draw the inference, much less if you were working in the office of a legal organization.

Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were lying? Don't you think it's strange that ACORN would immediately fire two employees if they were honest and being set up?

At best, you could make an attempt at arguing that ACORN itself is legit, and these two employees are complete idiots and its an isolated incident.  Yes, you could, but that argument begins to lose credibility when you consider that you have more videos exposing different offices.  Am I to assume that all ACORN employees are just plain idiots?

I'm just thankful to God that the Census Bureau severed ties with them.

[iamzack]

I still have yet to see any truth to it. The phraseology is ambigous. (And the people presenting it painfully obviously lying.) Child prostitution is so far outside the normal sort of activity that you would have to be pretty direct, or pre-prepared by the Youtube blurb, to draw the inference, much less if you were working in the office of a legal organization.

Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were lying? Don't you think it's strange that ACORN would immediately fire two employees if they were honest and being set up?

At best, you could make an attempt at arguing that ACORN itself is legit, and these two employees are complete idiots and its an isolated incident.  Yes, you could, but that argument begins to lose credibility when you consider that you have more videos exposing different offices.  Am I to assume that all ACORN employees are just plain idiots?

I'm just thankful to God that the Census Bureau severed ties with them.

I don't think it's strange. That's how political organizations do things. Fire first, ask questions later.

You can say the same about any organization.

The Census Bureau is just gonna hire some other organization with just as many lying, cheating morons.

[Bobboau]

I still have yet to see any truth to it. The phraseology is ambigous. (And the people presenting it painfully obviously lying.) Child prostitution is so far outside the normal sort of activity that you would have to be pretty direct, or pre-prepared by the Youtube blurb, to draw the inference, much less if you were working in the office of a legal organization.

so did you click on the youtube link I posted or didn't you? that was THE video in question. I believe.

[mxlm]

Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were lying? Don't you think it's strange that ACORN would immediately fire two employees if they were honest and being set up?

I think you have the burden of proof mixed up. The posers with the camera are the ones making accusations, thus it is they who would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. If they were making those accusations in court, that is, which they most certainly are not.