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Offline Akalabeth Angel

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #40 on: September 22, 2009, 02:56:59 pm
Quote from: Liberator on September 22, 2009, 09:51:56 am
People say, we don't want you to be the police of the world, then some problem comes up and it's "Oh, the US will handle it for us!"

Which is it people?

Also, how long do you turn the other cheek?  Do you fight or run away before or after the assailant has taken the dagger he had behind his back and planted it firmly into your heart or your gut?


Dude the US is not the world police. If they were the police they'd be serving the interests of the world, serve and protect and all that.

There's nothing the US does that isn't in its OWN interests.


And you need to grow up a bit when it comes to people in other countries. Wholesale slaughters of entire populations is something that quite honestly only an ignorant idiot would suggest. The US has already bombed enough weddings in Afghanistan as it is.
 

Offline iamzack

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #41 on: September 22, 2009, 03:08:27 pm
Exactly. If we were really out to help people, we'd probably be doing something about the crises in sub-Saharan Africa other than throwing money at US-friendly dictatorships and telling them to use it to buy food instead of investing in infrastructure.
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Offline BloodEagle

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #42 on: September 22, 2009, 04:03:49 pm
The United States investing in infrastructure?  :lol:

Good one.  :P
 

Offline Liberator

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #43 on: September 22, 2009, 05:12:54 pm
Yeah don't get me started on how badly the US is about handling infrastructure maintenance or upgrades/replacement.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.
 

Offline mxlm

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #44 on: September 22, 2009, 08:39:19 pm
Quote from: jr2 on September 22, 2009, 08:51:30 am
People say we're not the police force of the world... well I for one think that if you make a consistent habit of torturing or killing your citizens without a way to remove the government responsible by the citizens' own hand, the neighborly thing to do would be to remove said government for the citizens. 

This sort of attitude is basically anathema to (what) conservative(s say their) values (are).

That reminds me of a time I encountered a libertarian who was of the opinion the Israelis should start indiscriminately killing Palestinians until the terrorism stopped. I guess he thought that government was only a problem when it wasn't committing mass murder. Of foreigners, of course.
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Offline iamzack

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #45 on: September 22, 2009, 08:55:08 pm
If they knew Israelis are just as brown as Palestinians, they'd probably say we should massacre both.
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Offline Thaeris

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #46 on: September 22, 2009, 11:23:08 pm
Quote from: iamzack on September 22, 2009, 08:55:08 pm
If they knew Israelis are just as brown as Palestinians, they'd probably say we should massacre both.

That's crass to a new degree. And quite unfounded.
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Offline Mars

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #47 on: September 22, 2009, 11:55:53 pm
Here's an idea for the detainees. Put some sort of tracker or tag in them all, and let them all go. Check on them every now and then.

It's a hell of a lot better for the detainees than spending their whole lives in confinement.

It's much safer for the US theoretically.
 

Offline BloodEagle

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #48 on: September 23, 2009, 12:33:23 am
Huh.

....

Well... er... you know. And, um....
 

Offline redsniper

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #49 on: September 23, 2009, 12:37:05 am
WHY CAN'T WE JUST BE THE GOOD GUYS AGAIN!? AAARRRRRRRRRRGH!!!
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Offline Liberator

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #50 on: September 23, 2009, 06:56:26 am
I'd love to be the good guys again. 

Makes me feel good when the brits or the french or whatever are like "BY GOD!  IT'S THE AMERICANS!"  in those old WW1 & 2 movies.  Yea, I know they were propaganda-ish, but I still like to think we were more appreciated then.  These days I feel like the unwanted guest no one wants around.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.
 

Offline Mars

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #51 on: September 23, 2009, 07:02:17 am
Quote from: redsniper on September 23, 2009, 12:37:05 am
WHY CAN'T WE JUST BE THE GOOD GUYS AGAIN!? AAARRRRRRRRRRGH!!!

WE NEVER WERE!

There's nothing worse than someone who thinks they have the moral high ground, and actually don't.
 

Offline Liberator

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #52 on: September 23, 2009, 07:14:33 am
WTF?  Moral High Ground?

I think I know who you are comparing us to, but for those of us who are not bright, why don't you spell it out for us.  Please?
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.
 

Offline iamzack

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Reply #53 on: September 23, 2009, 07:15:52 am
Lol, comparing us to us.
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
 

Offline jr2

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #54 on: September 23, 2009, 08:47:15 am
Quote from: mxlm on September 22, 2009, 08:39:19 pm
Quote from: jr2 on September 22, 2009, 08:51:30 am
People say we're not the police force of the world... well I for one think that if you make a consistent habit of torturing or killing your citizens without a way to remove the government responsible by the citizens' own hand, the neighborly thing to do would be to remove said government for the citizens.  

This sort of attitude is basically anathema to (what) conservative(s say their) values (are).


There are limits to what should be allowed.  e.g., allowing what we consider illegal drugs to be used by your citizens?  Sure.  Just don't sell them to us.  Everyone has to bow to the king?  Whatever.  Your tax rates are through the roof?  Don't care.  If you piss off the dictator he'll send his death squads to rape your family in front of you and slowly torture them to death as an example to keep people in line?  A bit different.
 

Offline Kosh

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #55 on: September 23, 2009, 09:46:12 am
Quote from: NGTM-1R on September 18, 2009, 01:14:47 pm
Quote from: iamzack on September 18, 2009, 12:53:04 pm
So we detain them forever?! That's the opposite of our legal system. >.<

To be honest, in the act of creating Gitmo we ensured that we would have to hold most of its inmates forever, because they will turn on us if we free them. This was a very predictable consequence, unfortunately.


Sounds like we ended up creating our own future enemies (again).
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #56 on: September 23, 2009, 12:59:32 pm
Quote from: Liberator on September 23, 2009, 06:56:26 am
I'd love to be the good guys again. 

Makes me feel good when the brits or the french or whatever are like "BY GOD!  IT'S THE AMERICANS!"  in those old WW1 & 2 movies.  Yea, I know they were propaganda-ish, but I still like to think we were more appreciated then.  These days I feel like the unwanted guest no one wants around.

Ah, right, back when we were detaining our own loyal citizens in concentration camps, curtailing civil liberties, giving more and more power to a socialist president, letting the FBI wiretap, arrest, and blackmail at will, and carpet-bombing cities. (Not to mention performing medical experiments on black people!)

The good old days.
 

Offline iamzack

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #57 on: September 23, 2009, 01:26:51 pm
They don't put a lot of focus on McCarthyism and Japanese-American internment in schools in my experience. We just learn about the Holocaust in Germany and Pearl Harbor. Little mention of over 100,000 innocent Americans imprisoned for having slanty eyes, and no mention that not a single one was found to be a spy.
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #58 on: September 23, 2009, 01:30:34 pm
Yeah. I met someone who was interned. Made me very sad.
 

Offline Sushi

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Re: Can't say I voted for this
Reply #59 on: September 23, 2009, 01:35:37 pm
Quote from: iamzack on September 23, 2009, 01:26:51 pm
They don't put a lot of focus on McCarthyism and Japanese-American internment in schools in my experience. We just learn about the Holocaust in Germany and Pearl Harbor. Little mention of over 100,000 innocent Americans imprisoned for having slanty eyes, and no mention that not a single one was found to be a spy.

"Your experience," of course, being the one school you went to.

I remember both being covered pretty extensively in both Jr. High and High School.

My anecdote can beat up your anecdote! :p


Quote from: General Battuta on September 23, 2009, 12:59:32 pm
Ah, right, back when we were detaining our own loyal citizens in concentration camps, curtailing civil liberties, giving more and more power to a socialist president, letting the FBI wiretap, arrest, and blackmail at will, and carpet-bombing cities. (Not to mention performing medical experiments on black people!)

The good old days.

Except we don't carpet-bomb these days... bring back carpet bombing! :D
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