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Offline Dilmah G

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Heh. :)

The good thing about Forced Entry is that after the first time you pass it, it's quite easy afterwards (at least that's how I found it, I can almost do it with my eyes closed these days. :P)

 

Offline Firartix

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I FINALLY DID IT !

And well, all what i can say is : Screw Myrmidon and Trebuchets.
Although they seem to work fine first, i couldn't make the mission with them.

Here's the Loadout i used : (well it was in very easy mode ><)
Alpha Wing with Perseus, Kayser & Prometheus, 5 Trebs 5 Silettos
Beta Wing Hercules MkII with huh.... anti-fighter things. I didn't think about em much.
Gamma Wing using.... i don't remember at all oO'

Actually, the Trebs are not usefull at all.
Just one thing to say:
GET SILLETOES !

Whereas the Treb takes 5 Shots to hit 3 times, and 3 shots to kill a cannon, the Silletos are much more effective
Instead of firing Trebs at 5000 range, just go near 1500 range and fire silletos to one shot the beam cannons.
And since the Trebs are really slow and uneffective, it'll be even faster this way.
Just remember to aim carefully, Silletoes guiding isn't as good as the Treb one..

You may think i'm stupid but uh, here's what happened to me for now :
 - First, i couldn't make the mission without dieing (most of times) using Myrmidon & Hercules. With the Perseus everything is just fine, i ended the mission with 92% integrity (without rellying on shields much)
 - I went to attack the Ravana with 3 trebs and 3 Silletos. I fired my Trebs at one beam cannon. Only 2 hit the target, and the beam was at ~10%. Then well... i just took my 3 Silletos, and one shot all the 3 beams.

Anyway, good luck to other people doing that mission :o

 

Offline Dragon

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One more thing, don't try giving Trebs to AI, as they never use them unless special condintions are met. (good-secondary-time SEXP)

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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I don't understand how people can have difficulties to pass this mission. I usually pass it on the first or second try on Medium and Hard. It might come from flying styles, but it still seems a too large difference to only be due to that.
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Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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I think it boils down towards ship, ship loadout and not knowing where the Shivans will appear next. When I first played Forced Entry, I did not expect the Abel to appear behind the Temeraire, so I panicked and failed the mission.
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Offline General Battuta

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Firartix, which MediaVPs are you using? The Trebuchet is not nearly as ineffective as you make it out to be. Something sounds wrong.

 

Offline The E

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Agreed, Trebs are the way to go. Stilettoes, as good as they are, get intercepted too easily in my experience. It all comes down to targeting; Especially that beam on the Lilith can be very hard to hit if the Geometry is even slightly wrong.

Double-linked Trebs have a very good hit/kill rate in my experience, and, unlike Stilettoes, they don't get intercepted by Flak or fighters.
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Offline Firartix

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well i use FSPort 3.1.1, FSPort mediavps, and the standard MediaVP pack.
Maybe i shouldn't use the standard FS2 ones huh ?

 

Offline The E

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Whaaaat.

To play BP correctly you need:
*Retail FS2
*FS2 MediaVPs (Preferably the patched 3.6.10 ones)
*Blue Planet 3.6.10

Please run a debug build, load up BP, and then post the fs2_open.log file from <FS2 dir>\data\ here.
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Offline Firartix

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Wait, i'm completely wrong.
I just made a mistake....
I'm actually not using FSPort ><

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Allright I've run a little playthrough of this level : [deleted] (I know, bad quality and no sound, but anyway)
First attempt for a long time, Hard difficulty, Perseus loaded with Promy+Balor and full Trebuchet banks. All went without a flaw. And the video capture process stole me quite a lot of CPU or GPU power i.e. drop in FPS, so I wasn't flying as good as I'm used to.

Now tell me where it's even possible to experiment difficulties in this mission, because I really don't see 0.0

EDIT : Much better quality for this one. http://fr.xfire.com/video/1b545d/

Now please tell me were you're having difficulties, because I really don't understand.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2009, 07:19:27 am by MatthTheGeek »
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline ShihiZu

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I can't finish this mission. When Temeraire jumps in, it go about 13min to the portal. After ~8min it suddenly stops driving and stands still, never reaches the portal. No way to finish it..
When I run a debugger-build, it crashes (log attached). Also, i can't skip this mission.

Is there a solution?

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Offline The E

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Is it always the same crash?

There's a known issue with this mission that may cause intermittent crashes at the end of it.
However, your log shows an issue somewhere in the sound handling code, I can't say I have ever seen that before.

Please try to redownload the BP 3.6.10 pack, see if it fixes the issue.
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Offline General Battuta

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Yeah, redownload the campaign, see if it fixes itself. You can pick up right where you left off assuming you don't make a new pilot.

 

Offline The E

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Yeah, I'd recommend making a new pilot as well. Could be pilot file corruption.
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Offline General Battuta

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Well then you'll lose your campaign progress and have to do it all over, so leave that as a last resort.

 

Offline ShihiZu

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The bug itself which I'm getting when running in debug-mode is not fixed itself, but I could finish the mission. Thanks!

 

Offline General Battuta

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Okay, awesome. Glad to hear you beat it, it's a tough mission!

Are you enjoying the campaign?

 

Offline ShihiZu

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I started yesterday afternoon and played the whole campaign. I'm enjoying it very much. I look forward to WiH.  :)

 

Offline Aardwolf

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Damn beam haze...

I was all the way to the end, and got killed by the beam haze of the Ravana's mains, while sitting BEHIND them.

Edit: Woot! I beat it, taking a myrmidon for myself and my wing... Prom+Balor/Hornet+Trebuchet+Trebuchet for myself. And I enabled Fury's custom AI tables so that my wingmen would actually be able to keep up with me using ETS/Afterburners to rush up and take out the Abel's beams, so they could defend me from Kali wing's inevitable retaliation...
« Last Edit: January 16, 2010, 01:21:13 am by Aardwolf »