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Offline TrashMan

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I really had no point. It's just totally amazing that a normal sized hurricane totally whips our output by a few hundred times in just one day of it's existence.

And we kinda dump as much heat as a hurricane produces into the atmosphere EACH DAY by just our power plants. Then add cars, various gases and every other appliance (since they all dump some heat).

Nature is swell and powerfull, no one is denying that. But it's balanced. And we are dumping buttloads of energy into that system daily. It doesn't take a genious to figure out that sooner or later the s*** is gonan hit the fan.
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Offline watsisname

I got a question for someone knowledgeable on the subject:

Methane.  Lots of it.  Frozen under the arctic.  And even more that would will be released by plant matter when the permafrost thaws.
Anyone know of an estimate for how much could be expected to be released over how much time, or maybe link to a relevant article?

Quotes from wiki:
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At high pressures, such as are found on the bottom of the ocean, methane forms a solid clathrate with water, known as methane hydrate. An unknown, but possibly very large quantity of methane is trapped in this form in ocean sediments. The sudden release of large volumes of methane from such sediments into the atmosphere has been suggested as a possible cause for rapid global warming events in the Earth's distant past, such as the Paleocene–Eocene Thermal Maximum of 55 million years ago, and the Great Dying.

Theories suggest that should global warming cause them to heat up sufficiently, all of this methane could again be suddenly released into the atmosphere. Since methane is twenty-five times stronger (for a given weight, averaged over 100 years) than CO2 as a greenhouse gas; this would immensely magnify the greenhouse effect, heating Earth to unprecedented levels (see Clathrate gun hypothesis).

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Although less dramatic than release from clathrates, but already happening, is an increase in the release of methane from bogs as permafrost melts. Although records of permafrost are limited, recent years (1999 to 2007) have seen record thawing of permafrost in Alaska and Siberia.
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Offline TrashMan

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Can't recall of the top of my head. Huuuge quantities.
We're talking many millions of cubic meters.
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I really had no point. It's just totally amazing that a normal sized hurricane totally whips our output by a few hundred times in just one day of it's existence.

And we kinda dump as much heat as a hurricane produces into the atmosphere EACH DAY by just our power plants. Then add cars, various gases and every other appliance (since they all dump some heat).

Nature is swell and powerfull, no one is denying that. But it's balanced. And we are dumping buttloads of energy into that system daily. It doesn't take a genious to figure out that sooner or later the s*** is gonan hit the fan.


No we don't, not even close.

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A fully developed hurricane can release heat energy at a rate of 5 to 20x1013 watts and converts less than 10% of the heat into the mechanical energy of the wind. The heat release is equivalent to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb exploding every 20 minutes. According to the 1993 World Almanac, the entire human race used energy at a rate of 1013 watts in 1990, a rate less than 20% of the power of a hurricane.

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html

Not to argue anything about global warming, just don't have the time anymore. But, weather is not balanced, not by any stretch of the imagination.
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