[ShadowGorrath]

I think this long topic name explains pretty much what I need ( and a couple of other projects as well, I guess ).

Firstly, are there any models of modern aircraft or naval ships, or something? Buildings, ground units, naval units, something like that? But mostly modern, and/or semi-futuristic aircraft ( like that Su-47MK2 that Esarai made ). Or, if there aren't any, can anyone make some? Low poly is fine, as long as they look like aerospace aircraft...

Secondly, does anyone still have that atmosphere fighters mod? The one with the F-22, alien drones and a Nevada ground model? I've used to have it, but lost it... again. And kinda need a few things from it.

[Nuke]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmhsxv69uI

[ShadowGorrath]

Already got improvised gravity. Models is what I need.

[Droid803]

Look for freeware models of planes and stuff.
I'll convert them for you.

[Scooby_Doo]

There's a few of my models that are based on real (or fake) aircraft (the f-15, f-5, f-19, mig ferret, the X-30? UAV)

[Snail]

There were like, SAM in the 158th model dump. If that's useful to you.

[Thaeris]

I'm not sure this is... entirely acceptable... but I could reduce the detail on X-Plane's default Nimitz-Class carrier. This would (a.) make it different from what is used in X-Plane and (b.) let the mod run a bit more smoothly due to a reduced poly count.

Being a part of the X-Plane community, I could also try and ask the creaters of the given models desired for permission to port those models from the sim, reduce the detail, make optimizations, etc., and send them your way.

Let's see, you might look into Flight Gear's model library as well, though you'd need permissions as always. Getting onto the site and finding the downloads isn't much of a challenge.

As a last suggestion, you might attempt to rip some models from YS Flight sim (NOT the default models, though). I'm not sure what format they use, but I'm sure I could figure it out. Again, you'd need to get permissions.

[ShadowGorrath]

I'd be very thankfull if you could do that, Thaeris. And thanks for the info

Snail, I'm already getting the tanks in-game as ground vehicles. And the sattelite too. Unfortunately, the other stuff in the mod ain't very useful. Where to get the SAMs though?

Scooby_Doo, I got the MiG and F-19, along with the Ghost, and would like to use them, if you don't mind. Couldn't find the others.

[Snail]

Snail, I'm already getting the tanks in-game as ground vehicles. And the sattelite too. Unfortunately, the other stuff in the mod ain't very useful. Where to get the SAMs though?

Somewhere in there.

Problem is that each of them comes as a base of like 5 SAMs in a circle, you can't place them individually.

And you have to put them on a flat plane too or else some will be hovering or covered.

[Dragon]

If you think abou missile turrets from 158th dump, I managed to separate one them, so it's possiblem to place them individually.
ShadowGorrath, ask Woolie Wool about those, I had included them into gound extension for Wings, along with the Airport (also diverted from 158th bases).

[Thaeris]

By the way, what sort of flight model are you using for this? I know Nuke was working on what seemed to be a fairly sophisticated flight model...

[ShadowGorrath]

This video should show the basics of the flight model. You don't see what happens if you slow down though. And I've reduced the banking constant.

[General Battuta]

I'm not worried about arcade flight models; it wouldn't be as much fun if it were realistic anyway.

[Thaeris]

I'm not worried about arcade flight models; it wouldn't be as much fun if it were realistic anyway.

You lie!

[Thaeris]

In all honesty, the Nimitz might be an "under-the-table" job, but it's much too detailed to remain looking as it does now anyway. Thus, it will look like the Nimitz when I'm finished, but not recognizably like the X-Plane vessel.

The other British warships are made by a fellow by the name of Daniel Grimes, who happens to be a friend of mine. I'm sure I could get his permission to modify the ships below for the purposes of the mod. Or, if I do get his permission, someone who's actually working on Shadow's project could probably do it; I have quite a few projects already.

The images of the models were captured in AC3D; the blue points are lights which would be seen in the X-Plane environment.

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[ShadowGorrath]

Well, they don't seem that much detailed to need reducing polies How detailed are these ships anyway ( number of polygons ) ?

Would be awesome to get them though

[Thaeris]

Well, Daniel's ships are less complicated in comparison; they would need to be optimized, though.

Let's see, in their present, unmodified form...

Nimitz-Class: 45514 surfaces, 135880 vertices.

Daring-Class: 4703 surfaces, 14081 vertices.

Queen Elizabeth-Class: 28059 surfaces, 83826 vertices.

"Stealth Ship": 3446 surfaces, 10338 vertices.

I've never found Daniel's models to be terribly well optimized, so the high figures should be reduced. The vertices were probably not welded, either, so that's why the vert count was so high. I do have more ships as well, if you're interested. I can try contacting Daniel later this week as well.

[Dragon]

Daring and a "Stealth Ship" look quite resonable, assumning that by "surfaces" you mean polygons.
Queen Elizabeth have a bit too much polies, but better computers still would be able to handle that, if only it used one texture for entire ship.
Nimitz needs optimizing, but ships with that polycount can work in FS2, as I recall HTL Karnak have similar polycount.
In fact, texture number is more important than polycount in terms if preformance.

[Thaeris]

 

The Nimitz has far more polies than the QE. All of those models need optimizing as well. Unfortunately, many of the X-Plane models I've seen are not terribly well constructed. This is not referring to planes made in Plane Maker, but models made in Blender, AC3D, etc. Objects are often not formed into a coherent, single object, surfaces are often double-sided, etc. This is easy enough to fix, but it does take time. The X-Plane animations also have no value for the project; someone who converts the model can worry about that. All things in time, though. 

[Thaeris]

GOOD NEWS:

I've gotten a reply from Daniel, and we've thus now recieved the green light for using his ships!

As part of my agreement with him, we'll share any optimizations to the ships with him for X-Plane. This should thus benefit both this project and the X-Plane community. I'll try to start working on the ships this weekend.