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Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
I'm looking for a campaign with G-rated language for a younger brother. I've already tried several but none seem to fit the ticket. Ideas, anyone?

 

Offline Dragon

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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
I don't recall any swearing in PI, but it may be a bit (:)) too difficult for him.

 

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I'm not sure even the retail campaign is obscenity-free.

 

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I'm not sure even the retail campaign is obscenity-free.

It isn't.
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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
I think Cardinal Spear was either pretty clean or completely clean.

If you don't care to play FS1 on FSO, change your mind for this one. This is a great campaign.  :nod:
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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
The german versions of the original campaigns are free of swearing.... they even got an FSK (age recommendation system in germany and austria) rating of 12.
Which pretty much comes down to no swearing, to talk of sex and no blood on screen. Wether a 12 years old child would understand what's going on, isn't considered in that system (like total annihilation of a species for example....).

 

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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
If you really needed to clean things up in a particular campaign, you could always just fire up FRED and edit the offending lines of dialog.

 

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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
The german versions of the original campaigns are free of swearing.... they even got an FSK (age recommendation system in germany and austria) rating of 12.
Which pretty much comes down to no swearing, to talk of sex and no blood on screen. Wether a 12 years old child would understand what's going on, isn't considered in that system (like total annihilation of a species for example....).

That's slightly wrong. German censors, as a rule, don't actually care about "bad" language at all.

Actually, what's up with this? Is there some kind of psychological rule I am unaware of that says "Hear x amount of "bad" language and be irredeemably damaged"?
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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
If you really needed to clean things up in a particular campaign, you could always just fire up FRED and edit the offending lines of dialog.

Yeah, this is probably the best way to go. Play through it yourself, note anything objectionable, patch it up. If you don't know how to unpack a VP, just say so and someone will explain.

  

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Actually, what's up with this? Is there some kind of psychological rule I am unaware of that says "Hear x amount of "bad" language and be irredeemably damaged"?
"X=one word", for sufficently young children.
My little brother (about two years old) is playing "Project Freedom" (a cheap space shooter, though with good graphics) and for some time he swore like a trooper (mostly with direct quotes from the game), before we taught him not to do so.
Little children are like parrots, they repeat everything that they hear, especially if it's making other people react.
That's a big problem since my other brother (about 5 years older, but not really smarter) shown him this game and the youger one is very assertive, so he doesn't like when somebody's not allowing him to do whatever he wants, my so parents let him play just to shut him up. It worked, but only for some time. And when he decided to show his language skills to visitors, we decided to do something with this.

 

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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
Yes, young children will parrot everything they hear, but the question is: Will this (temporary) "contamination" of their vocabulary affect their sociological or psychological development negatively?
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Naw, I doubt it. They'll learn it sooner or later.
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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
Yes, young children will parrot everything they hear, but the question is: Will this (temporary) "contamination" of their vocabulary affect their sociological or psychological development negatively?
I don't think that it will affect their psychology, but with the amount of swearing I hear everyday in school, we don't need another child who learns the word before learning it's meaning.
Plus, it's not really good for one's reputation when a visitor comes and hears the yougest member of a family greet him with recently learned, gratitious swear word.

 

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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
I reckon you'll mess 'em up more by treating it as some sort of taboo.

 
Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
Well, this is certainly an interesting psychology debate, but all I really wanted were some "clean" campaigns to check out.  :)

I'll look into PI and Cardinal Spear, I've wanted to play both for some time. And now I finally have the excuse to take some time off and try 'em out!

If you really needed to clean things up in a particular campaign, you could always just fire up FRED and edit the offending lines of dialog.

I hadn't really thought of that one before. Censoring the text of offensive lines doesn't sound too hard, but what if the campaign is voice-acted? It seems like the only two choices would be to alter every problematic audio file individually or just ditch the whole voice-acting VP altogether.

Or I could just make a totally clean campaign myself. Duh.  :D

 

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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
Censoring the text of offensive lines doesn't sound too hard, but what if the campaign is voice-acted? It seems like the only two choices would be to alter every problematic audio file individually or just ditch the whole voice-acting VP altogether.
Well, yeah. Editing the text is easy: extract the mission files from the .vp, edit the mission files, place the mission files to \freespace2\<modname>\data\missions\ and that's it. The mission files in \freespace2\<modname>\data\missions\ will override the mission files in the .vp.
The audio isn't much harder. Extract the audio files, find the offensive ones (with the help of the mission files), remove it and then either repack the audio files into a .vp or ditch the original audio .vp and place the remaining audio files somewhere in \freespace2\<modname>\data\ (can't remember where exactly but I'm sure the info is somewhere in the Wiki or something).

Edit: It would seem that the proper place for audio files is \freespace2\<modname>\data\sounds\ .
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Offline Dragon

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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
Or I could just make a totally clean campaign myself. Duh.  :D
That's also a good solution.
Better than trying to mess with VA files anyway.

 

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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
Voice goes in different places depending on the role. It could be in /data/voice/briefing, /data/voice/command_briefings, /data/voice/debriefing, or /data/voice/special. Special is the in-game voice folder, which would be the worst offender.

FS1/FSPort, FS2, and ST:R are all at a PG level, I believe, There's a few 'hells' and 'damns' and a couple of 'Oh my Gods' in extreme circumstances but it's not pervasive, and there's not a single instance of anything stronger.

If you really want something G-rated, though, you probably shouldn't be playing a game where you receive a medal for killing a hundred thousand people in The King's Gambit. Try something like World of Goo instead.
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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
Silent Threat Reborn, Blue Planet, PI are all probably at 'damn' and 'hell' level at most, so if you're okay with that...

 

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Re: Any "Clean" Campaigns out There?
Was Windmills clean? I don't think the Simulator was going to drop anything directly offensive on you...  :p
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